Demon's/Dark Souls Thread. Dark Souls II!

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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/1476/Eren">Eren</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Alright, now I should be like near the end I killed 4 archdemons. Died so-many-damn-times man. Hahaha.<div><br></div><div>I raped that monk clean. I guess it was because my soul level is high, it’s like 122. I went back to the palace and got near the end another dragon burned my knight, I tried to run through but he like blocks the way and I lost almost all my health. Made up to the boss but he killed me with that sword, and he drains my levels or something. Anyway, I beat him like on the 4th try but then there’s the dragon. I have no idea what to do with it (I tried 200 arrows but he just laughs at my knight and he will get burned he gets too close). Fuck that thing.</div><div><br></div><div>I read the guide and unlocked that door in 1-1 and there’s a sword in there. I like my crushing claymore 5 though so I just wanted to loot the old man but goddamn he has ToDs too (figures)…died like 10 times then formed a strategy to beat him. His armor looks ugly but it’s effective I heard.</div><div><br></div><div>The last area I’m in is some swamp valley. Awkward camera angles and guys surrounding my knight whipping him with clubs. You can’t fight back, I try to run but the swamp slows me down and I’m getting poisoned a lot. I hate this fucking level.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>
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I enjoy reading your progress, it takes me back. :)<div><br></div>World 5 is a bitch but the feeling you get after beating it is priceless.<div><br></div><div>Only one more archdemon to go dude. B-)</div>

<font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>Hahaha you guys made me stick around, I was going to sell this game out of frustration but I kept pushing through.</span></font><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>But anyway, I killed the final archdemon. I almost died by her knight with the sword, at first a ran over to that bitch but he kept getting in the way knocking my knight to the ground. So then I said fuck it and took him down, and looted his armor. I looked up his armor from a guide and it’s suppose to be a top 5 armor set or something. I think it looks weird but I equipped anyway. I just used arrows to kill the Maiden, easy stuff once you take out the knight guarding her. I’m at soul level 140 something, I farmed the shit outta those flying fish using soul thirst and that wind sword.</span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>I fought the final boss and killed him too, I have no idea what that thing is but he wasn’t too difficult. I heard you can kill Maiden in the Black but I didn’t touch her on this playthrough outta fear that I would lose my level ups or she would retaliate and kill me. Now it’s a new game and I noticed somethings:</span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>1. Guys are hitting waaaaay harder than before, holy shit. I mean, I still have my levels and items but I’m losing a lot of health now. That Red Eye knight stabbed my knight and he loss half of his health. And I have A LOT of health, the bar is from one side of the screen to the other.</span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>2. Those flying fish are becoming more aware whenever I am by them. I put on thief ring and I’m still getting barbed, why is taking so much health?</span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>3. I think there’s more enemies now. I don’t remember it being so many shadow clones in the skeleton world. The reaper ToD my knight, he got hit and died instantly. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>This crushing claymore is not working anymore. I need something faster like those blueblood sword builds I’ve been seening, also what’s with the “you can summon here” post? How can I summon? Summon what exactly?</span></font></div>

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<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/1476/Eren">Eren</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”></span></font><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>Now it’s a new game and I noticed somethings:</span></font><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>1. Guys are hitting waaaaay harder than before, holy shit. I mean, I still have my levels and items but I’m losing a lot of health now. That Red Eye knight stabbed my knight and he loss half of his health. And I have A LOT of health, the bar is from one side of the screen to the other.</span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>2. Those flying fish are becoming more aware whenever I am by them. I put on thief ring and I’m still getting barbed, why is taking so much health?</span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>3. I think there’s more enemies now. I don’t remember it being so many shadow clones in the skeleton world. The reaper ToD my knight, he got hit and died instantly. </span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”><br></span></font></div><div><font face=“Arial, Verdana” size=“2”><span style=“line-height: normal;”>This crushing claymore is not working anymore. I need something faster like those blueblood sword builds I’ve been seening,</span></font></div></div>
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1.  IIRC, the jump in difficulty (enemy stat values) from NG to NG+ was pretty significant.  You just have to play defensively at times to avoid or lessen the chance of you getting damaged/killed.<br><br>2.  It could be a number of factors:<br>     - (close) proximity to the rays could be causing them to attack you, regardless<br>     - being in Body Form while wearing armor and causing a lot of noise (via running)<br>     - having any auras from buffs could make you visibly susceptible to enemy attack/awarness ranges<br><br>With a Thief Ring, walking (maybe light jog) and not running/sprinting is usually the best choice for getting around, unless you are familiar with enemy positioning in a level.  In regard to the rays, you could just take them down (via long ranged attacks) in specific areas of 4-1 to make traversal of the area much easier (particularly the cliffside unless you use the shortcut to the 1st boss area).  4-2 cliffsides shouldn’t be too much of a problem provided you just walk with a Thief Ring equipped.<br><br>3.  This is likely due to World Tendency stuffs and why you are likely seeing more Black Phantoms everywhere, the concept being tied to how many times you died in Body Form in the world you are in which affects enemy stats/appearances.  World Tendency stuffs also have some events tied to them, mostly access to some rare item stuffs (in previously inaccessible areas) and NPC Black Phantom appearances (besides some BP stuffs for regular enemies).  It’s something that’s better explained in the wiki.  Basically, there’s a status screen to see the world tendency of a particular area (indicated with a colored stone tablet as a status selection option) which will have an effect on the world you are currently in at the time, with light (easier enemies, poor item drops) and dark (stronger enemies, better chance of rare item drops, especially crystal gecko drops).<br><br>I used a Crushing Claymore +5 and paired it with a buff from Cursed Weapon via a ‘cracked’ Talisman of Beasts and ran that for a while for this one melee build I was using.<br>Weapon enchanments/augmentations via forging/spell buffs are something worth considering, provided you take advantage of a weapons attack rating boosts in regards to stats.<br>Blueblood Sword stuffs are nice, provided you invest in some LCK points though.  It has a good combo (1H or 2H), provided you have enough stamina, good speed and reach, and it can be enchanted (Light Weapon can be used to buff the BBS for strong MAG ATK).<br><br>I enjoy reading your adventures though cause it reminds me of when I played <b>Demon’s Souls</b>, lol.<br>

I hated Demon’s Souls so why in the fuck did I think Dark Souls was going to be anymore enjoyable?<div><br></div><div>Taking this shit back tomorrow. It was the ONE time I bought used at GS, just because I didn’t like Dark. I didn’t think I’d want to return it with like 42m of gameplay. LOL,</div>

I’m trying not to turn this into a log, but this game is addicting once you understand how the game works. I’m fully aware that a lot of people abandoned DS for DarkS, but I wanna make sure I get everything done in this game first. I searched some forums and there are some people that claim to still be playing Demon Souls. I actually feel bad for having to look up stuff because I haven’t read a walkthrough in years until this game came along. <div><br></div><div>Moving along, yeah I died a lot in Shrine of Storms and kept using my SoEE, so I may this black tendency you mentioned. I noticed that the orange guys are running around now, are these black phantoms? There’s one at the entrance of the level and maaaaan this guy is fucking ridiculous, he like charges right at you. The moment you enter the level you better be ready because he’s like running right at you and he has ToD. I got his health all the way down and he used a fucking grass, instant recovery. How do I beat him? If I get hit once I die immediately. I can’t farm flying fish anymore because they don’t die via Stormruler hit, and they barb my knight to death. I did kill one of those orange skeletons by knocking him off the cliff, and he gave like 350000 souls goddamn! Imma farm this bastard and level up! I tried to fight the other orange skeletons but I died off ToD.</div><div><br></div><div>I finally got 18 magic so now I can use the BBS! I like this swords durability, and hits hard. I’m dropping crushing claymore for this thing, screw this. I got a tailsman of beast off another orange guy in stormfang tunnel and second chance. Sometimes second chance doesn’t work, dunno what’s with that. I tried to cast soul thirst with the tailsman but my knight just scratches his head, it only seems to work with Silver Catalist from the Wizard level/first playthrough. </div><div><br></div><div>So I have blessed axe X2 and bbs. Which is better? I like bbs because you can use that fire magic with it, but blessed axe knocks people down and it’s the only way to knock that orange skeleton off the cliff. </div>

Yeah.  The ones with that ‘glow’ are the BP, with the NPC BP only appearing in Pure Black World Tendency, save for one that appears in Pure White in 5-3.<br>The one you encountered at the beginning of 4-1 is one of the special NPC BP, this particular one is named Satsuki.<br>He willl usually aggro you the second you take a step forward from the 4-1 entry point but if you have a Thief Ring (a Graverobber’s Ring can also help) he won’t rush you immediately unless you provoke him.<br><br>A Satsuki strat that I used:<br>[details=Spoiler]<br><ul><li>(with Thief/Graverobber Ring equipped) enter 4-1 and walk back into the corner where the 4-1 entry point is.  If successful, Satsuki and the silver skeleton nearby won’t engage you.</li><li>If you have the Second Chance miracle, cast it, cause every little bit helps.  Fight is doable without it.</li><li>Pull and kill the silver skeleton with a bow, arrow to draw him to you and you kill it when it comes/rolls down to meet you.</li><li>Final prep stuffs: change out rings (maybe Cling Ring for HP boost in Soul Form in place of the Graverobber’s Ring).  Item slots should have grasses (in case of healing) and maybe soul remains (throwing one will momentarily distract Satsuki which will break off his attack and give you a chance to recover.  A good shield to block with (Purple Flame Shield is good, something with 100% physical block).  Movement is key so you can strafe him when you are locked on.</li><li>Fire an arrow at Satsuki for some damage (and to pull him) then keep your shield up and wait for him to attack.  Watch his attacks: one hand slashes should give you ample opportunity to counter-attack once they are blocked.  The stronger overhead slash has some start-up and recovery, sometimes giving you enough time to circle to his back for an opportunity to backstab him or combo.  Remember to watch your stamina to gauge it’s recovery should his sword attacks deplete a good amount of meter prior to you counter-attacking).  For the most part, play defensively and keep moving around to limit his movement range, especially when he rolls away.<br></li><li>Once his health gets low enough, Satsuki will heal with a grass, so keep/get relatively close to him and when you seem him use a grass, attack him to interrupt and hopefully you do enough damage in one combo string to kill him.</li></ul>[/details]<br><br>If you need to farm souls, 4-2 with the first reaper is a good place if you have farmed there before, easy to do if you have relatively high DEX (30), a good bow (Sticky Compound Long Bow +5), and Heavy Arrows.  Process being:  Kill the manta/ray that should be in firing range the moment you enter 4-2 (via entry point), then kill the Reaper (along with the shadowwalkers) for a nice soul bonus, maybe even the black skeleton in the hidden hallway as well if you are feeling brave, afterwards die/evacuate and repeat until you have enough.<br><br>The lower area with the BP dual wielding black skeleton is tough to get to, along with the 2 BP Gold Skeletons, but it’s manageable provided you have a good strat to efficiently eliminate all of them.  It’s also a pretty good spot to farm for bladestone stuff (all varieties), though pure bladestone (super rare) is only attainable via the BP dual wielding skeleton while shards/chunks can be gotten from both.<br><br>one strat I used for that area (melee)<br>[details=Spoiler]<br><ul><li>Prep stuffs: Clever Rat Ring (low life damage boost), the Dragon Bone Smasher (very large greatsword, attainable in 2-4 only in Pure White World Tendency), maybe a strong weapon that can be enchanted (curse weapon or light weapon), enough MP/recovery supplies to cast enchantment (item enchantments might work) Second Chance (as insurance until familiar with run) and evacuate (to leave area).</li><li>From 4-3 entry point, cast Second Chance then head back through the area to the slug pits, have Clever Rat Ring equipped and Thief Ring.</li><li>Once you enter the slug pit, head around to the left pathway from where you are, right before you step onto the narrow path.  This part is a bit tricky: wait for one of the magic glow balls to approach you and explode, which will damage you and activate the Clever Rat Ring damage bonus, provided you have enough life to take the initial damage to survive, hence Second Chance usage.  If you run (and short jog) to this particular area after you enter the level (and cast Second Chance), you’ll arrive at the spot before the magic glow ball arrives.  When it explodes it should only knock you back on the ledge and not into the lower pits so it takes a little practice to achieve the desired effect.</li><li>After that, head toward the cliffside, killing the reaper at the top of the stairs with a bow or melee if you feel frisky. Then move slowly toward the BP dual wield skeleton, cast enchantment (curse weapon in case of DBS) then walk and backstab the BP dual wielding skeleton.  When it’s knocked down, follow-up with a 2H overhead slash to (hopefully) finish it off and collect your drops + souls.</li><li>If curse weapon is still active, proceed around the cliffside and repeat the attack method on the near BP gold skeleton, while being careful of the 2nd one.  With enough practice, one casting of curse weapon will be enough, provided your stats give enough of a boost to your attack as well.  If not, take your time with a preferred attack method to dispatch the pair here, should the enchantment run out and you don’t want to waste supplies.<br></li><li>Evacuate when done</li></ul>[/details]<br><br>Second Cnance works to protect you if you endure an attack that would otherwise kill you, though it won’t protect you from high falls though.<br>The moment you revive/recover is instant IIRC so act quickly to move away and regroup if necessary.<br><br>Also, some spells/miracles don’t stack and act together because of passive activity effects so it’s either/or in some cases.<br>That, and make sure you have enough MP to cast stuff, Soul Thirst is 200 MP, Second Chance is 100 MP, etc.<br><br>Blessed weapons are pretty good for HP regen and magic damage that scales with faith.  BBS has a lot of potential overall though, provided you invest into it.  Knockdown is good with heavy weapons too, though slow.  It all depends on the situation though regarding weapon choice/character build/etc. so use what’s comfortable for you and make sure you have a tactic in mind regarding your build.<br><br>If you plan on getting everything, world tendency is the one thing that is likely to affect your overall playing experience, mainly because things will become a ‘progressive’ list of things to accomplish to get things done, methodical even.  It’s usually recommended to do WT stuffs on your first playthrough cause WT carries over into NG+.  Maintaining white world/black world tendencies affects how you take on NPC black phantoms as well as access the inaccessible areas along with Body/Soul form stuffs needed to achieve either status.  Killing bosses and NPC BP will contribute to white world stuffs while dying in Body form will contribute to black world stuffs, the balance in maximizing the opportunities you are given is a game in it of itself, lol.<br><br><br>

All you Souls heads owe it to yourselves this out: NEWGAME+ "Zelda X Demon's Souls"

gametrailers.com/videos/6x0xky/dark-souls-ii-training-souls

Leading up to Dark Souls 2 on April 11th!

Lot of great points in that video.

April 11th baby…can’t wait.

LOL. Also check out my thread linked above fools.

I agree with mostly everything in this video. The only thing I did not like about Dark Souls was the fact that the objective was very unclear to me at times. Even though I think Dark souls is a much better game, I actually preferred the more straight forward approach of the Demon’s souls nexus. They don’t need to make the objective too obvious, but they could be just a little more lenient on where it is imo. I just can’t stand getting lost lol

I also hope that DS2 has the same atmosphere as demon’s souls.

Astrea will kill herself if you kill Gar Vinland, then talk to her.

I know a few people will be playing this game now that it’s free for PS+ members. I’m gonna be jumping on to Demon’s Souls in a bit since I have a few characters at different levels, so I can help out a bit if you want.

I think I can even dupe Pure Bladestones with my PS+ backup.

Everything in that Gametrailers video was spot on. The most important thing that Dark Souls 2 needs to be is…well, Dark Souls. The feeling of hopelessness, fear, and overall despair are all elements that are transpired not only through the character but to the player as well. In fact, I’d go as far to say that your character is merely an extension of your own self, which makes it that much easier to become consumed by the experience and is what also makes Dark Souls such a beautiful game. The lack of conveyance in terms of the story is also something that they got perfect, and they need to do it again with DSII. I don’t think the storyline would be half as awesome if I hadn’t discovered things the way I did, which was on my own and as I would if I were really in my character’s shoes.

I mean jesus. Havel’s backstory alone is just mind shattering, and it’s not even 1/50th of the storyline and yet it’s a crucial part in the story as well. So much is going on in this world. It’s up to you to come to understand it, focus on just surviving the horrors, or both even.

I find Gwyndolin’s back story to be fascinating and one of the most intrieging in gaming period. A lot of Dark Souls’ characters back stories could support whole games themselves, yet so little is reavealed about them in-game.

Dark Souls blurs the line between gaming and art, and people wonder why we are worried when new directors are appointed to head the sequel, directors who say their goals are to “enhance the action” and “make [Dark Souls 2] more accesible to new players.”

I feel it’s going to be miracle if Dark Souls 2 retains even half the magic the first one has. I’ve rarely in my life hoped more that I’m wrong about something.

No Bioshock at family video so I need to grind through DS1. The only bad part is I am not sure where I should be going, either Tomb of Giants or the place through the door in Undead Burg behind the FUCKING black night with the club, ^^;

well you could look it up, but process of elimination is your best friend here

its part of the system of every choice killing you until you find the good one, which makes the good one feel like a breakthrough

oh and the area past the black knight leads to three places (and then more)

if you really want a tip, skip the tomb for now, but check the graveyard for treasures

Actually I haven’t played in weeks (mostly because of school) but I just used arrows on her. I was pretty cautious because I read somewhere that she attacks you with God’s Wrath, and at the time that probably would of killed me lol. I did killed her bodyguard and looted his armor (I forgot to get his sword blah), design wise it’s a hell lot better than the one from Old King Doran. I’ve since been playing NG+ and like I said (and somebody confirmed) it’s harder. My Knight was at Soul Level 203 IIRC, he had a custom build or sorts:

Weapons/Armor

Dark Silver Set/Shield
Lava Bow
BBS
Regen Shield
Cling Ring/Regen Ring/Great STR ring/Ring of Avarice/Thief Ring
Blessed Great Axe x2
ToB

Spells

Second Chance
Cursed Blade
Warding
Regen
Evacuate (when farming)
Anti-Magic Field (saves my ass vs. those Magician things)
Firestorm (good vs. groupies)

I left off in world 3-2 and I’m having problems with this world. There’s A LOT more orange guys this time around I noticed, damn they take so much health. Seriously, one of them soul arrow me and I lost half of my health. Come on man.

The boss is hard I can’t kill him fast enough without his friend coming out and double teaming my knight. I can’t defend myself when this happens. Bah.

I wish certain spell stack, I tried to cast Warding and Second Chance in a boss fight, but my Knight just looked around and scratched his head.

She won’t attack you at all unless you attack her first.

If you’re willing to wait, I’ll be on later tonight hopefully.

I really like the game, but the fact that there was a bug left in there in purpose in which it would spell instant death no matter how careful thoughtful you where, gets you killed really pisses me off to no fucking end because.

Regardless, I am playing the game again, do you folks now how to activate the glitch, or the chances of it happening most?

oh, and fuck a stone, just arrow your way in Sen’s Fortress