Democratic Party presidential candidates, 2016

Au contraire, this is making Sander’s election more likely. He really will be the next FDR; elected on domestic policy, and leading us through a World War.

Talking about the Paris thing…

LOLWUT?

Sanders isn’t half that politician FDR was. FDR had balls and was willing to use power when it needed to be used to get things done. What we need is a charsmatic JFK and power figure like Johnson rolled in one to get shit done. Sanders couldn’t even handle two irrelevant black girls making a ruckus over dumb fucking shit because they thought Sanders wasn’t making a big enough deal about what they perceived to be the biggest issue.

That shit with Saunders was a George souros plant to try and fuck up his vibe… Gotta follow that money. I thought he handled it fine. That was bait and he didn’t take it.

To the other post I don’t think this will trigger the omg we need a repub. the myth that dems are weak on defense is gone. That defense budget still fat, after two terms with Obama. The person this really hurts is rand paul. He is open about his isolationist dreams and what he thinks we should do with the defense budget. Everyone’s knee jerk reaction is to send troops, blow shit up ect ect. They don’t wanna hear what Paul trying to say right now.

That’s in response to this:

i say that every time that dummy posts

Whatever it was, he doesn’t have the backbone. And I say this liking 52% of what Sanders says

SRK not too fond of the Dems, huh…

SRK is fairly left-leaning, as everyone is black.

I’m guessing that most of SRK is like this guy:
“if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination (a big “if”), I will likely not vote for her, and will instead write in Bernie Sanders”

Sanders and his supporters are hacks. I ask questions and all I get is because and believe!!!

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2016, another shit year

My sense is that Sanders supporters are to Democrats what Trump supporters are to Republicans- people who fervently want an anti establishment candidate.

The main difference is that Sanders supporters also support him because they believe in the social justice values he stands for, while Trump supporters like him simply because they want a “strong man” to take charge.

Well, I might be able to offer a few reason I like him:
-He actually seems focused on domestic policy, as compared to the GOP and Hillary’s focus on foreign policy, which I like
-When he says “I’m not going to use a Super PAC”, he follows through. Only he and Trump can say that, and we know Trump is just too rich to care about campaign costs in the first place. A lot of politicians whine about campaign reform while playing into the system; Bernie is willing to run up against the system in his own way to show that you don’t need a Super PAC to run for office. I respect that.
-He accepts that both sides of many issues need to compromise, which is more realistic than a lot of what I see from everyone else
-He actively tries to get younger voters involved in a time when many millennials feel that no one in government represents their interests. I am glad that a candidate is trying to expand the voter base rather than compete for it with someone else.
-He doesn’t play into the “smear games” the media loves so much, and actually talks politics when he shows up to talk politics. I think this is a lot of the reason why the media fixates on Trump so much and avoids mentioning him as a legitimate candidate.

We share a good deal of beliefs, but I agree with Webb and O’Malley a bit too. Bernie stands out because he shows a lot more character than the other choices, which I feel matters more than political affiliation.

Interesting post, but this point strikes me as odd.

  1. I’ve always thought of Sanders as an ideologue, not someone you’d ever associate with the word “compromise”.

  2. Clinton, I’m sure is more realistic and ready to compromise than Sanders is (in fact she’s too much so), so why would “being able to compromise” be one of Sander’s strong points?

Interested to hear your elaboration.

fuck democrats and fuck republicans.

I want carnage, bloodshed, and revolution.

Well that’s good and all. That’s how we should look at candidates, have some type of character we can relate to.

My issue with him is that, he’s all talk, want’s to bite, but doesn’t give a shit about the consequences because reasons and buzzwords. He want’s to expand social programs, ok we in some ways should expand programs and ensure that any expansion is focused primarily in making said program more robust and efficient in both costs and productivity per dollar. (NASA being the only government agency with that level of efficiency)

He want’s to put the burden exclusively on one group of people, yet will refuse to put regulation or policy that shares burden and responsibility on the receptionists of people who would use those programs. No safeguards or talk about what measures ensure that the programs in place are sustainable not because you can increase taxes on the rich at a whim, but because they are engineered and designed well.

His solution to everything is to simply throw more money at a problem and doesn’t give a shit where it comes from. That isn’t a good plan, nor has it ever really been a good plan, nor is it sustainable. Anybody that’s ever solved something or done something on a budget learns that doing things right once is the way to go. His policy is as absurd as Trump saying ima make America great by bringing jobs back. Only difference is that Sanders says he’s going to make America great by spending more money on everything because it’s a right.

And he’s pandering to millennials who are on average, on the same level socialist belief he runs on. He is trying to get their vote by pandering, it’s the same thing Obezzy did in 08, and to a lesser degree 12. Except it looks less insidious because he gets to hide behind feel good buzzwords that make you look like a asshole if you say no. If he could provide substance, that’d be great. But after talking to supporters of Bernie Sanders, i’m convinced him and his people are the political and social equivalent of the idoitic right wing.

Sanders has goals, but I am sure he is well aware that the Republican Congress will not give him impunity to tax everyone as he pleases.

He has strongly held beliefs, but he isn’t one to bicker over the mundane. Clinton isn’t really “compromising”, she just avoids committing to anything so she has more options for what to say later.

And while Sanders talks about taxing the 1%, he has a few other ideas that can work: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/top10

you’d love syria

More than carnage and bloodshed, he wants free wings.

There are no free wings in Syria.

We don’t want another Bush or Clinton monarchy in 2017…