I’m looking to buy a new TV and I’ve read in instruction booklets, that some TVs can cause delay. HDTV’s and such also seem to have a delay mentioned in their specs. I don’t want my fighting game experiences compromised!
What are people’s thoughts, experiences, recommendations? I want minimal delay! I’m specifically looking at ones I can use for my PC monitor as well. Or conversely, if I were to get a ‘monitor’ as opposed to a ‘tv’ is it possible to hook up my PS3 or other systems to it? If so, what sort of connection am I looking for?
Thanks!
-K
480i / 480p games: get a nice old flat-screen low definition CRT
hi-def games on ps3 and shit: get a nice HDTV
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Some sets have a “game mode” which reduces the amount of processing used, so look for one with that.
If you were to get a monitor instead, I would strongly suggest making sure it can correct for the aspect ratio. Monitors have a ratio of 16:10 instead of 16:9, and due to the mismatch you’d have to deal with stretching. It’s bad enough with widescreen material, but it would ruin 4:3 games as you could imagine. On mine, it’s not bad when the PS3 is set to 720p, but I still wish it wasn’t there. I guess the only way to find out if a monitor has it is to download the manual. It’s not something you’ll see in the specs.
Oh, another thing: if you have any intention of connecting a PS2 or older console to this, I’m not sure if a monitor would work because it may not accept an interlaced signal. The Xbox mostly supported progressive scan and to a lesser extent the GameCube did (provided you had the unit with the component output that was later removed), but many PS2 games did not.
Will PS1 and PS2 games work ok if ran through the PS3? Would there be stretching?
Thanks for the feedback so far, guys.
no even worse. There will be at a minimum 4 frames of lag on PS2 games played through PS3. Don’t play ps2 games on ps3. buy a ps2. they are cheap
Regarding the stretching, the PS3 would display the games properly if you use the “normal” option for upscaling.
However, the lag would kill it for fighting games.
I hate how lcd displays have come and phased out the good ol’ crt.
How I get down…
PS3 on a 24" 16:10 crt vga monitor (w/ the aide of hdfury)
PS2/1 on 20" 4:3 crt rgb monitor
Movies and tv on the 47" lcd.
You feel it very subtle. But for casual gaming is not that bad… I wouldn’t not buy a good TV because of it.
hooking up PS1 games and older consoles to a monitor would require an external upscaling device, like XRGB2+ or something similar.
Ps2 you have the option (though doesn’t always work) to purchase a PS2 VGA cable and then use a CD based device to force the game to output at VGA or HD resolutions (HDTV Player by Xploder). Or just set up the PS2 to output to an external upscaling device HDBox Pro (IIRC its called that), XRGB2+ or something similar.
DC should support VGA for most games and should work for monitors and presumably for most LCD HD TVs, but theres no garuntee on that.
PS3 shouldn’'t have much of a problem because through component or HDMI you can force it to output at HD resolutions thus by passing the main cause of lag (deinterlacing the 480i video source).
But you should check that HDTV Lag Problem and solution thread on this board.
The banding on these TVs still haven’t been corrected. Total crapshoot if you get a good set or not.
I’m in a similar boat. It’s time I bought an HDTV for when SF4 and HD remix come out.
As far as I can tell the most important factor is response time. I’m not sure what the upper limit of response time for a good gaming TV is as I’ve heard a few numbers thrown around.
Regardless of the response time of this particular TV I’m wondering what the cut-off for response time would be to put me off buying an HDTV which will be mainly used for gaming (hence response times and screen lag being a critical factor for me). I’d like to know without providing any information on the TV I plan on buying for the time being in case so I’ll get a nice generic answer in case I switch TV brand or type so I have a nice easy way to discriminate good gaming HDTVs from bad ones.
If I’m missing something and there are other important factors I should consider please let me know!
For the sake of interest here is one model I’m considering. If anyone owns/has owned one please feel free to enlighten me as to whether I’m making a good choice or not:
http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase2.5&prodID=B129585
I place a lot of weight in what fighter buffs in the know will tell me since command lag is extremely important to fighters so I hope someone can help me out with some information.
benq v2400w. If you are looking for great responce time. The wiewing angle is not that good but there is 0 lag.
Don’t get DLP.
Hi i hook up my ps3 with an HP pc monitor model HP w2207h it has a vga and a HDMI input. Its 1080p so i play tekken on it. It has no lag .Watch this video [media=youtube]uMzqAZKSmQE[/media] .I do df2 CH EWGF launcher in tekken online which is impossible if it had lag as you only have 1 frame/ 19ms in a 60 fps game to do the EWGF launcher .Watch the 2nd match 1st round.This is the best monitor better than the 24 inch size as i compared the 2 side by side in a computer store with the same screensaver of a macau parrot. The colours are brighter and the reds more appealing on the 22 inch.I cant recommend it enough i paid 200 pounds for it or 400 us dollars
There is another thread about this http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=174085&highlight=hdfury
The responce time is not all that matters in this issue. Most new HDTVs have a video buffer to make the image clearer. This unfortunately is what makes games unplayable. When I got my new TV after the holidays, I didn’t take the time to look into this beforehand, and almost threw my ps3 and arcade stick out the window. The thread mentionned above however did propose a solution that I have tried and works perfectly. HDfury2 (www.hdfury.com). It’s expensive, but if your TV has a VGA or Component input, this device will eliminate the delay and make all games playable again in full HD.
Just keep in mind if you are planning on getting a new TV soon for your gaming, make sure it has a “game mode” which eliminates the buffering. If not, be prepared to buy an additional device in order to not swear at the 1 second delay when hitting a button.
I hope this helps someone out there… happy gaming!