Dont do Rose…I’ve been there…You’re trading Ok damage, afew reversal options(shitty) for Great normals, worse damage, and even worse wake up.
almost beat the number 1 el fuerte. . .before he rage quit lol new video today or tomorrow.
i want to finish/start the matchup series i mentioned earlier but my major just won’t let me.
DeeJay should really be doing either one of two things: zoning with max outs or vortexing the character with ambiguity. He’s got good frame-traps but his footsies are GARBAGE (and this game is so footsie heavy, too -_- oh well). It’s understandable why he won’t be at the top, and sometimes I can feel so discouraged I ask myself: why don’t I just pick a slide-command character with a DP and call it a day?
DeeJay’s all I can play, though. Imma keep playing, him too, regardless. It’s not like it’s Hakan (not to bash him or anything lol)
btw. not liking the Sagat match right now D:
Lol that fuerte rage quit on me like 2 days ago. He said he threw his stick at his xbox and Ethernet came out lol
lol thought i was going to get raped, but his impatience almost lead me to a victory.
good frame traps?
tell me more:eek:
I’ve been getting people with meatie CR MP on their wake up for the counterhit that links into CR LP CR mk or it might just be CR mk … only got it twice. Other than that meatie St mk and far St mk!
Did you know that on the 1st players corner you can cross up hakan with jumping fp ?
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Most of DeeJay’s good frame traps come from his (close) st. mk. close st.mk is DECEPTIVELY good.
-j. mk>st. mk. >cr.mk is 1) a good frametrapper 2)a decent combo that gives you a UTKD 3) safe as long as they’re not mashing dp.
-other frame traps after a jump-in: cr. lp>st.mk will blow up crouch techers, and the reverse (st. mk into cr. lp) will almost always catch ppl trying to press a button, oh and don’t forget to cr.mk after that lp either lol)
-i discovered this like 2 days ago, cl. st mk will combo into cr. mp, but it’s a 1-framer and only works at point blank range (after like a deep jump-in or somethin)
but moves like cr. lp and cr. lk combo EASILY after a close st. mk
-once you’ve got your opponent conditioned to blocking your st.mk frame traps, you can now st. mk>(slight walk forward) and throw. trust me, this works. ppl are usually almost always OSing these frame traps at first, but after you knocking them down like 6 times, they usually wait for somethin after the close st. mk, and THAT’S where your throw mixups can become a threat cuz now you start stuttering your strings even more and crap…
you get the picture, be creative, but watch out for dem DP characters of course.
oh, and it you feel like being a bully (I’ve actually tried this, it works):
when you got them in the corner near the end of a match and you got meter to burn,
-j. mk (don’t cross up)>st. mk>cr. lp>EX Air Slasher>cr.lk>EX Air Slasher>cr. lk> EX Air Slasher
good chip in clutch moments, you feel godlike, and it can really piss the other player off (BUT, it won’t work on dp characters, better off usin it on ppl like Vega or Abel or Sim)
close st. mk is my favorite normal, right after cr. mk lmao.
^^
People don’t use st mk into cr mp because its 1 frame, thats why people add in a cr lp for the extra charge time!
Corner stuff; You can also link st mk after a ex as in the corner: jump in whatever st mk ex as st mk ex as cr mk
i see ur point…
i mean its not good frametraps and not so many…dj dont have heavy punch or kick with good framedata to use in frametraps like combostarter - like cammy cody guy and etc, yes st mk good option but only one, jab trap suck, cr mp (limited range) and thats all, thats fun cuz in SSF4 DJ dont have this option , but everyone told that dj solid mid without nothing o_O
DJ is definately…low tier. I know almost all of you will disagree. Open your eyes people
Nah ,I agree.
I think alot of damage on the ground comes from frame traps(his real blockstrings are lol anyway)…and the best way to land them is to bring out the crouch techer in everybody by doing things like walking backwards out of blocktrings and empty knee shot jumping. If you can make people afraid to Dp then things can really open up for deejay. Some one who is just willing the to block the next thing coming is food for ambiguous jumpin/ kneeshot tricks.
how wrong are they about deejay. no wakeup game
dan has a better wake up game and oiled hakan does.
instead of trying to balance hakan they should give him bad health and leave him permanently oiled.
Hey, can dee jay still OS akumas teleport? I lost to a run away akuma @ my local tourney… I used to be able to slide in super to punish it, but now…
I don’t really think Dee Jay has any OS options worth mentioning. This question’s been floating around the forums for a while and someone has yet to come up with something promising.
Runaway Akuma gives Dee Jay some major problems. Slide helps to you to keep advancing under air fireballs, but EX Sobat’s recovery is too slow to really be useful at getting in unless you hit with it. It’s harsh, but you really just need to grind him into a corner, then stay at a distance where he can’t really teleport through you to the other side safely. Around halfscreen with him in the corner is a good place to start. From there you can try to hem him in with max outs (you win this fireball war with EX Sobat) and try to build some sort of offence.
But I’m not going to lie, if Akuma knows how to run away, it’s going to be a 6-4 uphill battle at best.
Good luck!
The only OS I use is c.jab, c.jab (+c.mk), c.mk…and that’s mostly because I played Rog for a while and OS’ing his sweep is badass.
after reading kusomodo’s interview i’m going to stick with deejay. no counter picking nonsense. my yun and other characters were ass any way. fun for casuals, but i would never take them online.
love hate relation ship eh?
i just can’t stop playing him. i need to get my ass to guard crush. i just want to get on stream and possibly inspire people to play deejay or get blown up lol
was messing around with seth against my friend’s yang and i want deejay to get whatever Seth’s j. hk has. It beats a lot of wake up dps clean.