Dealing with anger

them youtube links are indeed helpfull zaspacer
god I still hate Honda vs Ryu matchups, luckily many of the HD Remix Ryus are easily beatable online and nothing like those top player form those vids

wow, I’ve never thought about it that way even though it’s so blindingly obvious

I just had deja vu with the Dict vs Dict scissor tick trap in the corner that I think someone (whistles) did to me the other night. :smile: Nice videos, this is pretty much what many people have been asking for in the various character specific threads.

Whaddup Nevermore?

Yup, I pulled the Bison trap from that footage and info from Nohoho’s site.
Though in Remix you can escape it with a Devil’s Reverse through the standing short.
(also, my timing is often pretty bad so often I’ll mess up and you can get out that way)

I found those links very helpful in developing my play in the different matchups.
I still don’t understand or have down all the stuff there by any means, but it definitely has given me a huge edge in that I can come into any matchup with at least some gameplan on how to approach/learn it.

Moving to Japan kind of helped me.

I used to say a lot of shit like “fuck you fuck you fuck you” really fast if somebody was comboing me or something… not that I am mad at the guy but just mad at being comboed lol. In Japan though if you show some anger people look at you weird.

Another big thing:
You also watch these guys that have this stoic cool whether winning or losing, it’s not like marvel where some idiots are yelling “OHH YEAHHH N**** I’M RUSHIN DIS BITCH DOWN BAH GAWD MAYNE YOU BLOCKIN HIMMMMMM”

The most calm player is the one that can think, the one that can think is the one that wins.

Basically just remember how stupid you look getting pissed at videogames. If you’re losing, there’s a reason why (you suck, you’re tired, your judgment is bad etc) and you’re just showing them something else they can exploit. It’s like talking about bad beats at the poker table, not only do you feel like a loser… other players KNOW you’re feeling like a loser and exploit it!

I raged last night because of a rollback due to lag, I FINALLY got FAB on this Ken and it would’ve won me a ranked match- but it rolled back and he shoryukened me right in the face, causing me to lose. I swore a shitton, threw my controller at the bed and smoked a cigarette, facepalming at XBox Live.

I tend not to get mad when I’m clearly outplayed/outmatched, though I’ll pull fits when I KNOW something is coming as well as how to beat it but the counter isn’t working (usually to sloppiness with the pad).

I get so mad if I lose to someone shit, two games in a row…

Saying that, I’ve at least not quit on anyone though! :stuck_out_tongue:

losing and learning from your mistakes is just another part of the game.

beat that into your own skull instead of your joysticks

I’m going to man-up and admit here that I’m a spoiled baby brat: my already less-than-stellar PSN connection has really gone downhill since late December and, coupled with SFHD’s weak netcode, the sheer frequency of disconnects and severity of lag I’ve been experiencing has made me really angry at times. I never get angry about other players or matches but hoooly cow this stuff drives me up the wall!

I learned to try it out at a given time when I feel like playing, and just walk away when it’s not working very well (80% of the time) instead of feeling frustrated and trying for half an hour hoping that it will suddenly, miraculously get better. Fuck, I just wanna play the game. :sad:

edit: Note that GGPO and 2DF unsurprisingly work just fine. So does everything else on every computer in the house.

for the threadstarter… buy yourself a sack like a old mony bag fill it with flour …

you can squish it throw it on a wall and and and… it will not brocken if you build it up correctlyits a nice “anti stress bags” and better then punsh your stick^^

I have a unbelievably hard time beating Chun. Sometimes there’s no way I can win. I HATE Chun Li. So damn cheap.

There are some really great comments here, and it’s great to know I’m not the only one who gets really frustrated over the game, and losing in general.

I’ve played SFII since WW days, and when I was younger, there was an amazing hubris that I ^shouldn’t^ have been beaten when I was. It lasted for a long, long time (through college, which is when I last played seriously before HD came out) and it hindered my development as a player a great deal.

Then HD came out, and while I am doing fairly well, I found that old hubris sneaking up on me. Fortunately, there was a lot of growing up that I did between then and now, which gave me some tools to get the most I can out of losing, and the overall experiences that one has when competing (at any level).

The first thing that needed to change was my sense of responsibility. When I lost a match, it would usually end up with me thinking “that was cheap” or some other inane comment. As I stated before, I never thought it could be me.

That had to change, and it is probably the most difficult change to make. It requires a humility and an almost 180 degree turn in how you approach things. You feel like you are going from the top of the pedestal to the bottom of the ladder, and it’s a hard feeling to swallow.

But the key here is that you were never at the top of the pedestal. It was simply an illusion that you generated in your mind to help you cope with your inability to accept that you couldn’t achieve something (and as Stuart Smalley would say, “and that’s ok”). Now that you’ve acknowledged the reality of the situation, you are that much closer to resolving it.

Here’s a specific example. Say you get tick-thrown a lot. Instead of countering with “you are cheap”, what that should be come is “I don’t know how to counter tick-throws”. Once you do that, the path of action is clear. When your belief was “you are cheap”, there wasn’t anything you could possibly do, and in a twisted way, it justified your position. But once you accept “I don’t know how to counter tick-throws” you put yourself in control, in that you can now take a course of action which can lead to a different outcome in your favor in the future.

Now that you have set a path, you are enabling yourself even more in that you are thinking in terms beyond yourself, beyond the here-and-now. When you do that, specifically in the sense of setting goals, you enable yourself with a drive to achieve that goal. Anger simply allows you to wallow, which is a weak justification for never overcoming negative impulses.

None of this is going to happen overnight, and try as you may, it might not occur for a long, long time. Perseverence is key here. And when it does happen, savor it, as this is a wondrous moment indeed. It will give you all the assurance you need to continue, as you realize you achieved something you thought you might not ever do, and from that point on, it will only get easier.

I can totally relate with your anger when it comes to losing matches. My anger while playing STHD can come from a myriad of different things. Tick-Throws, throw loops, failed reversals despite having the ABSOLUTE MOST PERFECT OPPORTUNITY to land one, getting nailed by projectiles because when I tried to do my own projectile to counter I ended up with a s.Fierce instead, you name it.

I know that when I play random people online, or even other people here in SRK, some of them are probably laughing at my crappy low-level Akuma and wondering, “What the hell was this guy thinking during that match?”. Sometimes I can lose 7 to 10 matches in a row with some matches where I didn’t even get remotely CLOSE to winning, and that frustrates me a whole lot because there is clearly something I’m not getting. I’ve come to realize that my being angry isn’t going to resolve the problem since the source of it lies in my inability to cope with certain situations and capitalize on it.

If I find myself getting frustrated to the point where I could probably hurl my controller across the room and through a wall, then what I would do is disconnect from the match, send a “Good game, but I gotta go…” message if I need to, and then turn my PS3 off for a long while and take a breather. From my experience, frustration and anger multiplies exponentially for me. The more angry I become, the less focused I become. The less focused I become, the more I lose, and the more I lose, the more I become angry and frustrated and it just goes on and on. Sometimes I just need to chill and go do something else.

That is entirely the main reason why I decided to come to SRK in the first place. To talk to people, discuss strategies, and voice my questions and concerns regarding certain game mechanics. If I have something that I’m not sure about, I ask, and the answers that I get usually gives me renewed faith to pick myself back up and play more to improve my game.

Being the Akuma enthusiast that I am, I pretty much play STHD living by two of his victory quotes:

*“It is clear that you’re not willing to do what’s necessary to win.”

“No techniques are off limits to me, but you hold yourself back.”*

I use them both to challenge and to encourage myself to constantly try to improve, polish, improve more, and re-polish my game so that I can one day beat all the people who once gave me trouble in the past. It won’t be easy and I’m sure I’ll get my fair share of beatings and frustrations in the process, but I know that so as long as I remain calm, positive and have a good attitude towards doing what I want to do, I’ll improve eventually. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not in the next couple of years, but eventually…

So don’t let anger and frustration get you down. Just keep at it!

I never thought my temper and video games would clash until I got into sf =P

I never had a mic on during matches, as I’m prone to drop a variety of 4 letter words, and I don’t wanna develop a reputation as that ragebaby in the bottom right corner of the player match room.

After one incident I decided my habits needed to change. 360 controllers are fragile pieces. One “I’m done” toss in the air and a bad landing on CARPET, half the controller is cracked open, and I have to glue it shut…the insides rattle to this day.

In an ironic twist, the game has encouraged me to go to the gym more. There’s one right behind my house (till I’m off to college that is) and taking out failed DPs and supers b/c of that damned thumbstick on weights and treadmills is alot less costly. I find when I’m worn out from a jog or lifting, I play just as well, but don’t have the pent up energy to get pissed off, making me a better player in general, alot more friendly over the mic, and more accepting of losses.

I thought I was a calm, relaxed player with a decent set of learning skills until I got into this game. There was a sign that I can not stand pressure very well when playing Team Fortress 2 (as a sniper, it’s frustrating to get wacked before getting a shot in), or even Mario Kart. Thing is, those games have long matches, so there is always build-up, moment of tension, breakdown, build-up etc. Mario Kart is only exciting in the lst round of three. You can only get angry when it goes wrong at the very last moment.
Street Fighter does not haver this property. Especially Turbo is damn quick, with matches being decided in a few seconds. When playing ranked this usually means you have 30 to 60 seconds to adapt to your opponent and win, or just lash out in your strategy succesfully. There is no time to learn the match. Pressure is extremely high, constantly in a repeated loop of match-ups. Makes it hard to keep your cool on.
Of course when losing there is a slippery slope effect, just making things harder on you. One should rest after feeling anxiety.

SF is harsh on gamers, I have been playing Counterstrike at decent competitive levels but I never felt the rage I feel these days. Because it doesn’t depend solely on you, and doesn’t require you to keep reaction time on everything you perceive under 50ms the whole damn time.

My girlfriend want me to stop playing because I get abusive towards her if she speaks during a ranked match. I even went into two hours of passve agressive behaviour because she was cleaning up when I was playing. Poor her :slight_smile: I’m trying not to care that much about losing now, as long as you consider yourself to be handicapped from the start, it doesnt hurt that much.
Rage comes from thinking you are better, while you are not.

I don’t get mad when I lose, but I get very, very angry at times when I lose because a move doesn’t come out (some times it’s my fault, at other times it doesn’t seem like it). Which is a WHOLE lot in this game, since a single “he did a fireball when he was supposed to do an uppercut” can mean 50% of your life gone. I’ve almost thrown my controller, but now I keep a set of curling irons by my couch to take it out on.

For 3rd strike players, don’t let taunting get to you when your opponent wins a round. Think of it as being hit after losing in MVC series or a fatality in Mortal Kombat? A little insult to injury, but its part of the game. Nothing to get upset about. If you’re going to be mad, get mad because you lost the round. To me its just another win pose, which that shouldn’t make you mad either because you’d always be angry when you lose.

i usually bully my puppy

Why not just work out if you’re so pissed?

Go run, or do some pushups, or pullups, or shadow boxing?