Valid point Deviljin. I’m not saying he can’t run on point. If he turns out to be terrible on point, and another “Dark Wesker/Phoenix” that takes no skill, that sucks. I’ll still play him since I wanted to use him as an achor anyways. Just hope he actually takes skill to play as. Even if we presume that he’s best in back, and not good up front. What’s to stop you from running him on point?
Just because the game creators had something in mind, doesn’t mean you have to follow it. I hope you put the work in, run him in front, and he ends up great. If you lose to a bunch of derpy Vergil’s in the back, all I can say is “Try harder” (Dark Wesker’s words of wisdom). I admit it comes to a point where skill alone can’t beat derpy odds, but not every team that made it to the top 8 in MVC3 had Wolverine and Phoenix on it. My point is play the game how you want to, and you might be suprised how much you can come up with. Cl0ckwork created Strider/Doom for instance… then people just followed. C. Viper could have been higher tier in MVC3 if people just put the time in to learn execution.
Yeah I’m already used to Dante having the start of the round issue but you can still jump during the start of the round and at least get a push block in and then get started from there. If you can get past the start of the round the rest is just getting spacing to use the normals. I just don’t understand how swinging around with him on point with some assists can’t be nearly as effective once you get past the “start of round crowd” shit that a lot of characters have to deal with.
That’s my only real complaint jin he can but you know in marvel all it takes is one hit that’s why it can be such a big thing too but his combos look sick as fuck check out that vid on the home page.
lunar phase ground bounce can be done after star fall ground bounce this is big in combos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv2-QSUlSIg&feature=player_embedded
Oh he did? Very interesting, what is the source to that? So its Tokido, Jwong Vs Jago and a few others, well its looking good for Vergil. And hm, glitch, I have a couple of ideas on how to activate that already. Altho it’ll probably get patched so i’ll still prefer using a ‘‘true’’ move. (Also hate charging ><)
Justin said he found a 700k combo with No glasses Wesker with no assists or meter. I think it was 700k. Also said he found some good stuff with Nova and Iron Fist. Somehow I missed the Vergil one.
“Vergil is probably the best out of the new characters and strider comes next and the 3rd is ghost rider IMO. Other chars have potential”
"Vergil strider and wesker might be one of the top teams in the game for sure “
When asked about the face he said it was because they are quote
"Cheap”
Wow, so much UMVC3 info these past few days! Gotta get caught up.
Soo, is the key to Vergil’s “unsafe” normals is his Round Trip special then? If that’s so, sounds like his playstyle is kind of similar to Zero’s, as in you gotta keep that charge going. Sounds interesting. I can’t wait to get my copy come Tuesday!
And L-O-L at Justin. I respect the guy alot, but I always take his opinions “with a grain of salt”(pardon the bad pun). He’s not always the most trustworthy guy when it comes to game balance, etc.
too afraid to ask if that’s anywhere on the team and with or without assists. But I figure i’d rather find that shit out myself at this point. Want to leave some fun in the game.
His J.2H is teleport cancellable. Imagine if Dante had a J.S had a teleport cancellable J.S that was + on block with the teleport follow up and randomly crossed up. Can also call assists during it. lol.
His normals destroy PROJECTILES(i destroyed drones, arrows, pretty much everything)
His reset game is amazing. He has a retarded air throw range, can combo off it from any height, can easily confirm air to air hits with airstring into J.S that ground bounces. Has a wesker style reset with 3H>H follow up.
Can combo off ground throws with Dash 3H>H follow up super. With Dante Jam Session, I managed to get a full combo.
Normals are unsafe but this is moot. I was hitting people all day with LM+drones+H>Teleport>Teleport.
Round trip is amazing for mixups.
Spiral Swords active from frame 1, has literally no recovery on activation unlike DT, BS Charge and other power up hypers. Shit is so good.
Best assist seems to be rapid slash.
DT didn’t seem very useful, his J.H doesn’t seem to crossup, making his airdash not that useful.
Sounds lik a good way to force a hard tag. Sword Storm sounds so incredibly cheap. I can imagine all the dirty offense now. Activate Spiral Swords, do a couple of mix ups, then activate Sword Storm before Spiral Swords expires for more cheese.
Call it BS till tuesday if you want. At first we thought the arrow only tracked the current location, so if you dashed it would miss, but the only character out of those we tested who managed to avoid it was Vergil.
I’ll just leave this here… it’s not much but maybe it’ll help satiate. Dante can do it too, & it gets tighter the closer you are to Hawkeye
EDIT: Just tested what DevilJin said, X-23 can do it as well. And I did it with button dash, but you can also buffer the dash with the stick/d-pad too.
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