Hitbox is cool if you like the hitbox. They arent “better” than a stick because you cant go wrong with a stick that goes in the direction you press it.
Hitbox might make your d-pad execution slightly faster, but a stick is still the ideal situation here.
the ideal situation is work with whatever the fuck works for you. Take this conversation elsewhere.
id like to know if the powerd up sword super that tracks the opponent works even if vergil is hit.
I think all swords disappear as soon as Vergil as hit
We haven’t seen that yet though.
The next question is whether it stays when you hard tag/dhc to another char…
it otgs… sexy enough for ya? on an unrealted note, does anyone have info on if round trip will have a time change, like trish?
that 600k already in dt means your character is dead. no matter what.
unless you somehow drop it some how., i advise you to buy this shirt.
Yea the Assist me Ep was good, altho smh at the Twin-brother/half brother thing + them making Vergil all Emo and wussy on purpose (I hope?) lol.
But yea Vergil looks deadly, I really like that you can combo fully from his Rising Sun as that’ll be an insane anti-air <3 punishing jumpers. And people were saying that Vergil had terrible air options & nothing close to Dante’s dash H, but it looks like Vergil’s Dash H might be even better in DT due to the distance + dash speed. And he def. looks more unsafe than Dante even when he cancels into Teleports (which look unsafe too even if stinger puts them in blockstun it seems) but It hopefully wouldn’t be to hard getting around that depending on your assists. Stinger > Judgement cut if they can’t mash between. Stinger > assist > teleport behind
[details=Spoiler]Yea I know I said imo, but the reason for me wanting a stick was to have tighter execution. There is def. just preference but I was looking merely at the techniques that would make certain things easier which MVC3 requires zero for imo. For E.G SF series you have 1 frame bnbs and a stick allows you to plink, double tap etc (At least easier). But for MVC3; there are no hard links (At least not required), no hard inputs, nothing I see that gives getting the stick a smaller advantage compared to other games. + You get a 1 button dash on the controller making a lot of things even easier +less noise so the opponent won’t hear & me playing @night + easier to carry.
But I don’t have a stick so I don’t know lol, but my reason and I know a lot of others too getting a stick was execution but for MVC3 even in Lag I rarely mess up anything (Although insanely annoying timing wise lol). Same will prob. go for SF X Tekken & future CC games. So eh, I really want one but I see little reason now :[/details] <- spoiler tagged reply again so itll seem less off-topic lol.
Nothing along those lines has been revealed. It also differs in that it is a simple toward and back motion on a horizontal line. It will not track to come back to Vergil as it would track to Trish. This can be both bad and good. I hope that also means that it will keep moving despite Vergil blocking or getting hit.
If you’re going to compare Vergil’s DT dash, you should compare it to Dante’s DT. Dante can do 2 movement actions of either dashes or double jumps in DT. And he can cancel his j.m into the double jump. Though Vergil does still have that wall jump, a DT double jump, and his DT dash does have that range and speed as you’ve mentioned… Dante’s air maneuverability simply has more versatility in DT compared to Vergil in DT.
There’s been vids of Vergil being hit and they disappear. Pretty sure Seth has also stated they go away on hit. He’d be a bit too good if they were like that.
and my guess is they go away on DHC. I did see them go away on hard tag in one video. But again, they’d be too good if they did stay on after a tag. What i’m curious on is if they come out in 1 frame, can you activate swords, it hits on that 1 frame, then DHC out with the opponent clean hit/stuck in block stun?
I’m not worried about Vergil being unsafe. First of all, this can be EASILY over come with assists.
Stinger+Assist+Teleport=free 50/50 mixup.We’ve seen it with Dante
In addition, his stinger is special cancellable, could probably cancel that shit into round trip for another mixup opportunity.
Can any of Vergil’s jumping normals cross-up as well as Dante’s j.H?
Unlike Dante the sword also looks like it completely touches the ground meaning he’ll be able to cross up and overhead the 3 small ass characters that Dante couldn’t (Morrigan, Ammy, Reg Phoenix).
Plus unlike Dante, Vergil actually gets a speed boost in Devil Trigger (along with the strength boost) which would make the cross up even harder to react to. I would say Vergil’s DT is overall better considering it makes all of his special moves much stronger also. The only thing Dante really gets over Vergil is a bit more freedom of movement and the fact that Dante basically gets the best two special moves in the game when he’s in DT (and already has some of the bets before DT).
Putting Vergil into reserve while he’s still in DT basically gives you EX versions of his assists also. Dante’s assists when he’s on the bench only do slightly more damage.
For overall comparison
DT Dante: 15 percent stronger, recharges red health (extremely fast when on the bench), gets access to triple jump, access to double air dash (allow him to lame out and close the gap much easier),** flight mode** (allows for infinite air dashes and with triple jump allows for 6 thunderbolts + assist calls at SJ height before landing), thunderbolt (aerial special that is the best beam in the game for so many reasons ),** vortex** (special move version of hard drive that can be done 3 times in air).
Does not get any faster, assists only do slightly more damage when he’s on the bench, special moves/assists do not get EX’d
DT Vergil: 15 percent stronger, recharges red health (extremely fast when on the bench), gets access to double jump and single air dash,** gets a significant speed increase**,** all of his speical moves become EX’d, his assists become EX’d when on the bench. **
Does not get triple jump or double air dash (needs DT just to air dash), no flight mode, no thunderbolt/vortex
For both questions, you’ve seen the sword crown mode behave that way specifically? Or is it just an assumption based on what seems logical from a game balance perspective? And are we still talking about marvel?
We already get more or less guaranteed unblockable/unavoidable resets off a single meter hyper. I don’t see it as too far-fetched to have the same capability off of 2 meters.
I admit that it’s probably unlikely. But I can dream… Just imagine my likely team of Trish/Vergil/X-23 and the epic levels of grief I would be able to inflict if it were true… Unblockable death from all sides.
oh my bad. I didn’t know you were talking crown mode. 
I just saw swords. I expect that to not go away regardless. (hit/DHC/Tag out). Though didn’t crown swords crumple on regular hit in a earlier build? Cause in the Max video they didn’t crumple on hit (maybe on counter hit they crumple?)
In Ultimate everyone cant do that - at least without assists, XF, or DHC’s.
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link plz?
I’m not really phased too much by 4 meter DHC glitch level 3. I’d rather just have the mix ups and DT.
i find it more of a good way to end a character that you don’t want alive and be certain they die in this combo.
Being a 4 meter level 3 it sounds like some real anchor only shit and forces you to play Vergil in a position where he can’t build any meter until the DT ends or he lands the level 3… You’re not going to have the meter for that unless he’s like dead last. If you kill somebody with it and it wasn’t the last character you’re left with basically no meter and that’s not really what Vergil wants outside of the start of the round.
It’s just more “kill character in one combo shit” that ruined Vanilla but made more fair by wasting all your resources (which Vergil does not want at all).
The only other way for it to be remotely viable especially with the meter gain nerf is to have Morrigan feeding you.
