Dark Slayer Style - The Vergil General Discussion Thread

I hope his rush assist is kind of like mvc3 tatsu. It covers horizontal range, and it looks like they fall pretty low to the ground. It’s not as instant, but it still looks useful for teleport mixups.

I might try and play my old rushdown/mixup team of Dante-X23-[S]Akuma/S, unless they nerfed Dante too much.

MUGEN…

SMH

But that would mean they would have to:

A) Burn a meter just to get rid of that risk.
B) Open them self up for a teleport counter.

It might let him totally avoid some beams too though, depending on the hitbox they have.

It’s really really likely that they’re projectiles though (most things like that are). Turns 7 rings into a universal counter against him, if that’s the case.

Sword Rings + Behind (Or front for mixups) teleport seriously, that shit doesn’t even NEED an assist, goddamn near instant hitstun.

A)surely a better option than to have an unhittable vergil in your face, potentially costing you a character.
B) not if they input their hyper during the freeze of your own hyper. it may have recovery afterwards like dantes DT activation. i seriously doubt that vergils teleport would be fast enough to get away from an akuma beam even if you were sat there idle not even pressing any buttons, let alone if you are in the middle of doing a move.

Vergil is gonna burn meter like no other… or at least mine will.
Every time I see his lvl. 3 done they always go DT first… so does that mean it’s technically a lvl. 4? Or were they just doing that for show…

That’s like the curse of these videos, lol. Like the whole “MODOK can’t block!” thing.

I see people using as combo extended and if it does prove to be really with recovery on it; then I’ll see people create set up for it. I highly doubt people would just activate in raw like it was Ouroboros.

And I’ve reacted teleported on Akuma’s beam with Dante before; it’s not impossible. And Vergil’s teleport seems fast enough to do so. I could be wrong but it looks faster than Dante’s. At least to me.

Im pretty sure it’s for show. Speaking of his level 3 I hope the change the animation of it, like after he slices you up he should turn around and the swords should begin to impale you then he should fix his hair like he does after the 1st time you fight him in DMC (swords should still be impaling the person individually)THEN he shieths (spelling?) his sword and the rest of the swords impale the person all at once and cause a small explosion.

The fuck thats not possible Akuma’s retarded beam super start-up is like 6 or 8 frames after super flash. Dante’s teleport isn’t nearly that fast

actually the more i watch the more it seems that this may be the case. take a look at the vergil gameplay vid when he finishes off skrull with the level 3, it actually completely kills off the rest of his DT meter before the animation has even finished. pretty sure after dantes level 3 if he finishes the round with level 3 he stays transformed briefly. we need a video of the level 3 when it doesnt end the round.

7 frames; I guess it was a read on my part but I’ve done it several times.

lol or maybe "u cant be my mother " :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah with Dante whenever he does the Level 3 while in Devil Trigger it remains during the entire animation, KO or not. Devil Trigger deactivates during the animation. It could be the case, but I don’t want to jump to conclusions.

Vergil comes out of Devil Trigger every time right before he sheathes Yamato in his level 3, either that’s just a conicedence, or that’s supposed to happen. He could’ve input the teleport a frame or two right before Akuma started it up, it sounds possible. If you do it at the same time, that. I do not know

That spiral sword certainly looks cheaper to use than Strider’s Ouroboros. That’s the move to look out for in my opinion. Of course Strider players would probably use the other lvl 3 up close since the Ouroboros can combo from far away. I didn’t even touch Dante knowing that Vergil would make my day and he certainly has.

Well, those cons of Vergil are rightfully in existence. There should be cons for him, and i think a viable level 3 for a dark mode is good since his level 1 seems pretty versatile as it is, not to mention his gameplay. I think he can fit the role of Anchor or point depending on what your taste is.

Anyone else feel that this is the swordsman that clockwork should use to replace phoenix instead of Strider. Extremely early speculation but that spiral sword stuff would be nice with dooms assists behind him for forward pressure if he can actually teleport with that special active. I should try asking clockwork during WNF tonight hahaha

Why not both? Vergil/Strider/Doom sounds kinda strong, i assume Vergil will have that sword ball shit as an assist, and i catch your drift with the Doom assist (i think Hidden missiles because due to it’s tracking).

AKA you teleported and they just so happened to do his beam.