Dark Slayer Style - The Vergil General Discussion Thread

To early to tell TBH.

It depends on the properties of Rapid Slash.

Yeah, I was wondering about that too. It looks like he didnā€™t pull it off though before he killed nemesis. The way he was explaining it sounded similar to Trishā€™s round harvest where it just stays tracked onto the opponent. Either way Vergil sounds like a point character on my team so I can build meter and constantly have that sword super activated. That thing looks so dangerous.

The berserker barrage one causes an air spin state, but not sure about the knockdown soā€¦ if it has any invincibility/projectile canceling ability/good priorityā€¦

hello new akuma tatsu assist

If you want to get super fanboy technical, Vergil uses Force Edge, which was Spardaā€™s other sword, while Dante uses Rebellion. Dante uses Force Edge in DMC1, and as his alternate starter sword in DMC2 (which never happened).

Also, about the Spiral Sword super, the third option is probably the sword ring. Vergil was able to make the swords form a ring around a target that would home in for a while before attacking. In DMC3 it was possible to jump out before getting hit. However, I can see a lot of homing sword/teleport left/right mix-ups happening, which is exactly what I was hoping for when I heard Vergil was a character.

Besides, Vergil could always be super broken. In DMC3, he could fire individual swords while attacking. Ooooooh the salt that would be thrown if that were possible.

Vergilā€™s teleport seems weird. He like teleports way above them, unlike Danteā€™s where its right over their shoulder.

Hmm Iron Fist and Vergil might be BFFā€™s; Iron Fist to build meter with green jazz hands, and Vergil to spend it

Iron Fist seems like heā€™s going to be easy to keep out + AG might kill his pressure/overhead/low mixup strings

dat patnership looks interesting indeed

Vergil level 1 Ouroboros seems a bit overrated to me. That shit will scale his combos so hard.

i guess using vergil and wasting meter on the sword hyper is going to be the closest to spiral ill getā€¦ ILL TAKE IT! > : )

Because people keep comparing it to Ouroborosā€¦ Iā€™m sure when the game is in our hands; weā€™ll find dangerous set ups for it that will make it worth the meter. And we donā€™t know how itā€™ll impact combos yet.

Watching the videos you can clearly see his combo damage starts going to shit pretty quick when it is used. Im not saying it is bad, just not as crazy as some people are making it out to be.

So far the best Virgil breakdown, goes through all his moves and hyper combos and even some advanced stuff

Honestly, Virgil seems like a stripped down version of dante with better hypers and teleports to make up for it.

http://uk.gamespot.com/events/tgs-2011/video.html?sid=6334758&pid=637240

Vergil looks like he has faster normals than Dante and some dumb range on them.

Awesome.

well we know its certainly not going to DECREASE damage and hitstun scaling thats for sure. im actually thinking that the alternate arrangement for them (around his head and firing towards the opp) will be more beneficial to continuiing his combos, providing they do actually combo when they hit the opp. youll want those babys to hit later on in a combo so it doesnt ruin the scaling on your first 10+moves or so.

Pretty much like I thought. Faster Dante with less moves, and better ports but the trade off of no air dash or double jump. Seems like heā€™ll be a cross between Dante and Wesker with his own shit.

Only like Taskmaster or Haggar without assists die to AG alone. Long as you have a good assist and break up your block strings you shouldnā€™t be dying to AG. Plus you donā€™t know if he has any moves that go through projectiles (most characters like him usually do) and either way in this game all it takes is one stray abare poke on some zone and you land full super high damage bnbs.

Vergilā€™s Level 3 only available during Devil Trigger

Damn thatā€™s some meter use.

it does seem he has faster normals with similar range than Dante.

It is also pretty big that he only has an air dash in Devil Trigger mode. Thats huge IMO. He will be teleporting a lot for those left/rights.

Not saying it wonā€™t scale down his damage. Iā€™m saying itā€™s to early to know how exactly we will use it for combos.

yea we do it will pretty much be an extender (for combos).

Mainly it will be used as a can opener though and used in conjunction with his teleports and assists for ambiguous left/rights