Dark Slayer Style - The Vergil General Discussion Thread

Maximillian Dark Vergil Riging Episode featuring no Vergils.

Rapid slash is very unsafe without a super cancel or a suitable assist, so rapid slash->rapid slash is almost never a good idea (but hey, XF3 changes everything :))

Some people cancel into devil trigger simply because they like it. Spiral swords is the "ā€œsaferā€ option and is shorter so you’ll be able to gain meter again relatively quickly, but it’s also honestly the easiest to block. You’re guaranteed a decent amount of chip, but if you don’t have an overhead assist the spiral swords isn’t going to really open them up if they’re just trying to block. I actually prefer devil trigger because instead of them just having to block while I set up 1, maybe 2 mixups from it, I get to just play one of the most broken characters in the game for 10 seconds. The speed up on round trip, the speed up on judgement cut/rapid slash, the absurd size of his specials, hell even just the air dash and life regen make it well worth the 1 bar imo.

It’s like a super buffed version of Beserker charge.

Pretty sweet stuff, but do you use that in matches? I mean, you do need tons of meter to do those combos…

Yo Vergil vs. Zero. Discuss.

First hit wins. :coffee:

Most of it i can pull off in real matches, if I have the meter to spend, but i just mostly go for the lunar phase SS loops or my variation of the Kubogarden combo since they do a lot of damage, and I only need around 1 meter to start. Stuff like the blistering swords overhead, TAC combo or X-factor overhead is too risky so i wont even go for it unless im really feeling myself.

The longer I play this character, the more I find me discussing match ups with other people to be ā€œcan I stand at midscreen and push 5h.ā€ This character’s normals are stupid… and I love it.

Question!
Can Vergil combo off of Magneto’s Shockwve hyper with groundbounce S?

yes but i dont see why you would

Just posting this here since it feels more appropriate. Ask any questions if you dont understand.

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Reposting a question here form a previous thread:

Hey guys been trying to flesh out my neutral game for Vergil(and his brother), and I’m curious how you guys handle calling assists(particularly beam assists, I use Magnus disruptor) for all vergil’s teleport mixups, that he enforces in his neutral game.
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Are you guys often combining the assist call into a button press ex. for a stinger input you would press towards + C + A2 all at the same time, or are you staggering the assist input between the moves.

I know it’s very hard to explain neutral game tactics in text form, but any input on the subject or anything about vergil’s Neutral game would be totally awesome to hear. I feel like every char should have threads discussing the char neutral game/setups similar to how we have combo stickies. ToD’s aren’t terribly useful if you can’t touch your opponent!
thanks.

Has anyone noticed that vergil can wavedash without crouching or plink dashing? It only works if you hold forward and mash any two attack buttons but one of them must be H. Why is he the only character that can do this(as far as I know)?

I noticed this too. I think it has something to do with his Stinger. I tried it with Dante, but it doesn’t work as well. It is such a good way to get around though. I think you can even use it to get under some attacks. There is even a reset with it with upper slash

It prolly doesnt work as well with dante cause he has to bold cancel his stinger. Seems I have some testing to do

Edit: Yea it doesnt seem to work with dante at all. I should try all characters who has a Forward Heavy move…But honestly im thinking its because he cant whiff cancel…but then i just tried in DT and he can still do this. This is very strange.

Edit2: Tested all characters with forward+heavy. No luck…this is very strange indeed.

Ghost Rider can do it backwards. I think it’s the same shit as using MH for dimension slash after high time.

Wait, so you’re saying Vergil can forward dash repeatedly with just M+H or L+H over and over? (like, would it work with a macro button?)

IF you have a macro, you can hold forward and mash it to dash forward. It’ll rarely not dash if you mash it mario party status and even then it’ll usually work.

I just want to remind the marvel community that spiral swords isn’t broken, well… it’s not broken against my team lol. Every Vergil player I have played gets bodied for spamming unsafe ass shit into round trip during SS :oops: people forget some characters have alpha counters.

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i got hit with a chris boulder punch alpha counter, it leads into a vergil kill combo without xfactor

Hello guys. I recall seeing a way to keep round trip charged after its thrown. Anyone want to enlighten me how?