every character is top tier against the computer, the computer is the worse player out there…
The tiers against the computer would be the same tiers as against humans
well what i meant by with the AI everyone is top tier meaning that i can win against the computer with most characters…
but playing against AI and humans are different
AI’s dont learn, and can get beaten with repetitious patterns
AI can do a walking forward sonic boom…
In my opinion, Terry is very very good. Maybe not top-tier because he doesn’t have a lot of abusable tactics (to my knowledge…if you know some, SEND ME SOME! 
), but fairly decent. Especially against Airborne opponents.
If you’re crouching and the opponent seeks to cross you up (if cross-ups are what I remember, it’ll work, otherwise…I just talked shit again), Rising Tackle that shit!
The Power Dunk can also jack up an opponent quite well, just don’t use it against any character that’s on the ground and has any sort of anti-air availiable.
The Crack Shoot can be almost tossed at random, ALMOST.
The Burn Knuckle is a nice way to knock an opponent’s that’s about to fall on the ground, plus, it’s got a lot of priority.
His fireball is nice to toss at random except against a P or K-Groover. Though it’s not wise to fireball-war with this.
We could get into his supers, but you know their usefulness, I’m sure.
For the record, the rest of my team is Rugal and Haohmaru.
Its all about S and C Dan…He’s so garbage that if u fight good with him he’s actually fun…another low/mid tier I think is real fun is Dhalsim he is Super zone style just keep away 100% and I love it…
-Dr.B:cool:A good team I saw recently was team fat boy…Chang…Zangief…Raiden…And believe it or not it was doing damage…just goes to show it’s the player who runs the chars…
-Dr.B:cool:
Any good Maki players out there??? And if so what are some good strats that u guys use to beat “top tier” like Sagat,cammy,blanka…etc…Thanks…
-Dr.B:cool:
I just started playing her. Not that great with her yet though. She has the potential to be a really great character…only problem is that your reflexes have to be as good as the computer. I dig playing her though…if I can make chang playable, then anything is possible =)
BTW, you going to folsom for wednesdays tournament? word on the street (fighter messageboard) is that there is going to be some alpha 3 going on.
Dude, come on. Zangief isn’t that fat. Team Fat Boy needs to replace Zangief with E.Honda.
And, for the record, maybe some people place too much emphasis on tiers, but only a moron or an inexperienced player will think they can beat someone else because their character is a higher tier. Also, tiers aren’t based on individual matchups, so a lower tier character might actually be a tougher fight than a higher tier character in certain cases.
And, of course, tiers don’t mean jack if you suck at the game.
Sure. You should take a peek a the Maki thead. Might find some interesting “tacts”.
there are no tiers in this game
alright, well, i play this game, but don’t know a lot about it. what’s rc?
anyways, i use terry, akuma, nakoruru, mai (for fun), king, and rock.
who is considered top/low tier? i know you people say that it depends on the player, not character. but i know there’s still somewhat of a ranking. oh, and i use blanka too, but i know he’s considered good.
and i use c groove, just cuz i don’t know what the best groove for me is. is this an alright one, or is it too basic and i should expand?
thanks for your help
Fobio: C groove is a great and good groove to use…U have Level 1-3 supers…Air block …Alpha counter …and level 2 super cancels to regular special moves or level 1’s…It’s great for chars like Blanka…Also look into a groove with run like N…I would also recommend S because it’s so damn fun,…If ya need anything else holla back I or good players out here will help ya…no prob…
-Dr.B:cool:When based on skill, there is no tier, but there is a major tier difference if u just base it on characters. I think i usually pick high tier characters like bison, geese, vega, and gief. But i sometimes use hibiki and rock, but thats not normal for me. My usual team is a K groove bison, geese, and vega on 2, but sometimes i replace bison for hibiki or rock.
to answer fobia question, akuma does high tier damage with the lowest tier damage taking i think…, to make up for his speed and damage i guess, terry and rock are mid, king, mai and nakoruru are low. I think terry’s damage might be mid-high though. I don’t know, some of the characters are a little off like akuma and vega. But vega fulcuates. I think he starts with high tier damage and mid defence, but drops one level when he loses his mask and claw.
But again, like everyone says, character tier doesn’t mean shit when it comes down to player vs player. Although it does come into play sometimes. Like i saw 2 people play, 1 guy with ratio 1 chun li and the other with a 1 rugal. Chun li kicked his ass for almost the enitre match and clearly knew what he was doing more then the rugal player, but rugal won in the end. the rugal player got some lucky kicks in, and then over powered li when he caught the chun li player with the rugal bomb into a level 2 kick super, eye beam thing, then a level 1 kick super in the corner.
So, even skill at times isn’t enough to over come the tier difference at times. Well, i guess i’m done contradiction myself…
I think as some of the ppl have said some characters are over look. By the sagat cammy and the blankas not saying they arent good but i like honda and i really like him i think most ppl sleep on his skills and i saw ohinuki use him(correct me if im wrong) and i was quite please with his preformance. Honda can be use very effectively in serious play. Ive use him and ive given players that love sagat and blanka a hard time. As James stated mostly anyone can be good if team up with Sagat and blanka:D
to fobio
Hey, for the team that u use, try out A groove. All the characters u use, except for maybe king, i never really saw some one use her in a groove, are good in A. All your characters have good customs like terry, mai, blanka, rock, Akuma (especially), and nakouru. It takes time to get them down properly, but mai has a easy one to do. But if u can get akumas and blanka’s down, then you can kick some serious ass because their customs are extremely strong.
I’m not so sure the C groove is the right one for your team except for terry and blanka. If A groove is too hard (well it is for me…, thats y i use K) then go for N. You characters are mostly low tier so the enhanced damage stocks would help u out a lot. Plus, akuma need a run.
Okay I’m confused to whether there is a real tier ranking on cvs2 for it’s characters. I searched for one and all I got was a thread where people listed there opinion on tier rankings. Is there one that everyone pretty much agrees upon?
According to some other people’s tier rankings I use almost all lower tier characters. Eagle, Rolento, Mai, Geese for the most part are lower tier in most of the tier rankings. Not that it matters to me…in my opinion my best chars are mostly lower tier.
I do have another question… When playing say A-groove what can you do to get a rushdown character off of you. If you were playing any of the characters listed above?
there are no tiers in this game . . . for example people say blanka is top tier . . . how could he be top tier when u can counter all of his moves with a short or jab? everyone is on the same level in this game and that’s becuase of the different grooves. if there were no grooves or parrying then their would be tiers. THe different grooves rule out the existence of tiers in this game.
people also think that sagats c.fp is the greatest thing in the world, which it isn’t, for very obvious reasons which i will not get into, but the bottom line is there are no tiers. MVC2 has tiers, not CVS2
you are playing the wrong game, now shut the fuck up
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