CvS2: Chun Li everything

System_1 · November 25, 2002, 7:28am

cool.

so when is your faq coming out? if ucan give an estimate on the time it will take you

Gandido · November 25, 2002, 7:39am

It SHOULD be out by next weekend, or maybe earlier. I’m just missing descriptions on the normals, specials and supers. Besides the descriptions, all the general mindset, advanced/basic strats have already been placed. I plan on making a Chun vs. __ section for EACH INDIVIDUAL character, so obviously it’s going to be periodically edited.

Here is the work-in-progress version.

System_1 · November 25, 2002, 8:05am

if this is what u think of the delayed buffer, then plz add it, i think my explaination may be more clear

c.mp, hold button for half a second (DO NOT DO THE QCF MOTION WHILE HOLDING FOR THIS HALF A SECOND) then let go of button and do double quarter circle motion quickly and kick button

if u are to do c.wp x 2, u can do these two quickly, but again, make sure u press mp for half a second and do double quarter circle motion quickly and super (same as above basically)

Gandido · November 25, 2002, 8:15am

You don’t need to hold a button for delayed buffer. It doesn’t even affect the outcome. Besides, why make it harder on myself?

Delayed buffering implies pressing kick a little later than usual and it should only come out when the strong hits. That’s the explanation. Why work so much to have to be psychic with fast qcf motions, when I can just do it that way and have it come out 100% of the time? Unless of course the way it works depends on how long you hold a button down, which isn’t what happens.

What you posted is completely incoherent, in aspect to what I was trying to say.

JS_Master · November 25, 2002, 8:54pm

ZNSF: when did u ever encounter a good honda? there isn’t much hondas in T.O.
except for me and barry.
barry doesn’t play no more, and i haven’t play u in the longest time.

System_1 · November 26, 2002, 1:44am

Great, I need help on playing vs Dan.

Seriously though, it’s always good to see FAQ’s come froming people who know what they are doing.

chun_li1 · November 26, 2002, 3:53am

*Originally posted by jchensor *
**In another thread, EX_Matt wrote:

I really don’t use too much variety. I try to keep it fairly simple.

Outside of the corner, I usually go for a Super Jump Roundhouse (which I find is MUCH harder to connect at home than in the arcades… is it just me?). And then I play the standard “Which side will I be on?!?” guessing game when they land and go for another Combo into the Kick Super.

Sometimes I do the headstomp into Jumping Short into Lightning Kick Combo. Whether it crosses up or not, I have trouble controlling, but if the enemy gets hit by it, then I proceed into yet another Kick Super Combo. But more often than not, I end up in the front, which means they CAN DP you if their Reversal Timing is good, so I don’t use this trick a lot.

A lot of the time, I’ll use a Jumping Fierce. But I’ll DELAY the second Jumping Fierce so that it whiffs. Then throw when we both land. Most players won’t expect the second one to whiff, and you two will land almost simultaneously. Risky, but works a lot. Maybe even go for a Crouch Jab Crouch Jab Crouch Strong Combo when you land if the enemy begins to catch on.

If the enemy is in the corner, I can use the above Throw set-up. But my favorite set-up is to do a High Jump Roundhouse after the Super. You land WAY earlier than the enemy, so I throw out a Crouching Jab to whiff as soon as I can. Then, follow that up with the Offensive Crouch + Roundhouse Kick. The Jab whiff makes them think I’m gonna try something when they land. But as soon as they land and try to Throw or hit me with something, I’ll (hopefully) fly over their head and nail them with the Offensive Crouch + Roundhouse. I then follow that up with a Level 1 Kikoshou (if you are in the left corner, do the motion and then wait until they fly over your head before you hit punch, so you do the Kikoshou the other way and catch them after they fly over your head).

If you are far far from the corner, you can do two Fierces after the Super Jump (this time making them both Combo) and land and immediately Low Jump to cross-up. I don’t use this one myself a lot mainly because, well, you are hardly ever that far from the corner after a Level 1 Kick Super and I always forget about it.

Needless to say, most of these are N-Groove tricks that can be applied to C-Groove. But in C-Groove, I usually use it for Stand Jab x 2 into Stand Short into Level 2 Kick Super, Lightning Kick, Crouch Jab Crouch Strong Level 1. If I can pull it off. And then I’m out of Supers, so I generally will go for the Throw set-up or just do the Roundhouse and play mind games from there.

James **

@jchensor:

A question on the above “after Super set ups”.

Is the strategy of doing a short jump head stomp, then cross up LK into Super or (deep) combo when/before opponent lands from the Super as effective or is it more risky to do this then the set ups you mentioned above?

chun_li1

chun_li1 · November 26, 2002, 3:55am

Uhm, has the following been discussed in this thread:

Chun Li w/short jump.

Can she do the sh. jump head stomp, then cross up light kick + Super only on some big characters (e.g. Blanka) or is it also possible to hit some/certain smaller, slimmer characters?

Also, is there a reliable way against Sagat to snuff and 2 in 1 into her Level 3 Super Sagats low fierce. So far I only got her low fierce going, but most of the time I get a trade or snuffed myself.

Can someone please reply?

@ jchensor.

Are you still playing your beloved Cammy or has she dropped in her effectiveness?

chun_li1

jchensor · November 26, 2002, 7:57am

Actually, the Short Jump Headstomp into Cross-up Short is easily usable after a Super, but because I usually preface it with a Crouch Jab (to get proper distancing), I would probably do Super Jumping Roundhouse, go to the other side of the enemy, do a Crouch Jab meaty, then do the Short Jump Headstomp into Short Cross-up. But even then, sometimes you end up too close and go over the enemy.

It CAN work on smaller characters, but only, I think, if they try to hit you with something your Short beats. But for chracters like Cammy or Sakura, I don’t think the trick will work without the enemy doing something to get themselves hit.

And yes, I still use Cammy every so often. In fact, she’s still on my number one team. ^_^. My main team is Maki, Cammy, and Chun Li.

James

Gandido · November 26, 2002, 10:42am

James, check your PM’s as soon as you can ^_^.

I’ll also add an updated version here soon.

Dr.B · November 26, 2002, 10:43am

Chun-Li is an evil bitch!!!

-Brandon:cool:

Gandido · November 26, 2002, 10:46am

Don’t hate Dr.B! Rolento was the one that killed you in casuals, mwahaha… I’m still writing up this god damn faq.

Random short jump headstomp owns.

-Gandido-

Sage · November 26, 2002, 10:54am

are you writing a faq for every character? where the chun-li one?

Gandido · November 26, 2002, 10:57am

Sage: I meant I’m still writing the Chun-Li faq, but now that you mention that, I might do Rolento. It’ll probably suck though.

Here’s an updated version as to how the Chun faq is coming along.

System_1 · November 26, 2002, 11:24am

How do I time follow ups with SBKs when I do Chun customs, shit never works for me.

Gandido · November 26, 2002, 11:25am

If its an after SBK hit, seriously, mash the button. Has never failed for me.

jchensor · November 27, 2002, 12:14am

Best way? I do it by rhythm. If you have a 6-hit Bird Kick, it’ll hit at a certain speed. Let’s say:

hit-hit-hit-hit-hit-hit

What I do, for the majority of my timing, is to learn a good “rhythm” for timing the move afterwards. I know the best time to throw out the Normal move after a Bird Kick is slightly SLOWER than the Bird Kick rhythm, but only slightly slower. So it’d be:

hit-hit-hit-hit-hit-hit–hit

I can’t mash on mine because my Chun custom needs to do specific things after Bird Kicks. Plus, I always prefer learning the timing as opposed to mashing… makes me feel more like I’m under control.

Hope that helps a bit.

James

Gandido · November 27, 2002, 12:47am

James, check your damn PM’s ^_^.

System_1 · November 27, 2002, 12:56am

Actually, now that I think about this, I could just listen to her say “Spinning Bird Kick!” and then figure out where the hits coincide with the words! Not as technical, but hey, whatever works, right James?

jchensor · November 27, 2002, 3:03am

True, actually, you COULD use her saying that, but if I’m not mistaken, she finishes saying that fairly significantly (even if for just a second or so) before she reaches the end of the actual Bird Kick animation when she’s hitting you. Then again, I may be wrong. I don’t remember. But if it works for you, definitely, more power to you.

James