CvS2: A-Groove Discussion

Vega is not top tier for a few reasons:

  1. He gets rushed down and he cant do a damn thing about it. Cant jab his opponents out of their rush like other characters and his command AA sucks. His regular AAs are gimmicky and isnt reliable like say other top tiers c. fierce AA. Probably the worst thing is that while trying to make your way out of an opponents rush, he loses his claw which is almost all his gameplay and his mask.

  2. Bad roll, bad forward dash. He cant even roll away to prevent getting rushed. His forward dash is painfully slow compared to Cammys.

  3. not so great supers, and not so great CC. while his supers and customs arent complete crap, they sure aint as useful as the rest of the top tiers say blankas supers, yama’s supers, sagats super. Red Impact isnt that great of a super. Its a ghetto anti air super, weaker version of sagats high tiger cannon and you need the claw. No good super cancels and his custom can only muster out 6.5K max compared to 7-12K for other A groove characters.

I’m not saying hes a bad character, but he doesnt belong in the same category as CBS. Hes like the Blackheart of CvS2, doesnt really win, doesnt really lose. Is Blackheart up there with Storm, Sent, Cable and Mags? I dont think so.

He is not entirely bad, and he has some great features. one of the best jump in attacks, best walk in the game, two great air throws and probably the best backdash.

His easy RCs take care of #1, #2 Cammy has a bad roll, Vega is a fast defensive charge character so his forward dash isn’t critical to his game. He can start his cc with a slide giving him great activation range. His kick aa is safe against jumping just defends, a “top tier” crouching fierce aa is not.

Ok Tell Ricky Ortiz Vega tier
Tell Prez Vega isnt top tier

His c.hp stops almost everysingle air attack in the game
If your vega gets rushed down, then you do not now how to play Vega, im sorry.

no problem. after all, i’m sure that vega isnt the only character they use.

and vega does get rushed down.

Vega IS top tier. Coming from me this is saying a lot. He has good RC’s (Claw roll for chip, or for whatever else you might do; wall hop or other thing he does to get free space; flip kick becomes A3-like). He has probably the best whiff punishing game as his walking speed makes for a lot of whiffs.

Not so good customs and supers, ok. His game IS NOT BASED AROUND THEM. If it were, then he wouldn’t be up there. Vega is just downright annoying.

Also, why on EARTH would you jab a lot when you get rushed, with any char? If I see that, I’ll just hit fierce and trade in my favor, until you get dizzy :slight_smile:

Another point i wanna mention which relates to vega and my way of doing the blanka CC.
Custom combos dont always have to have crazy damage to be effective. Its nice to get as much damage as possible, but I would rather go for the Sure thing and not something where there is room for error. Vega’s CC does about 5500 - 6000 depending how u do it. Now that is only 500 - 1000 short of most lvl3’s, except you built your meter a lot quicker then u would have in N-groove or C-groove. Thats just how I see it. Everyone hates falling for CC’s whether they do 4500 or 10000.

Ouroborous: before i thought vega was top tier too, i always had much trouble fighting him.
but thanx alot for pointing me out his weaknesses tho, now that u pointed out, he doesn’t seem so godly ne more. lol

next time i see a vega, i’ll rush taht shit down. :slight_smile:

Wow, looks like you got your head shoved up your ass! Vega is top-tier, if you fail to see it than why do you even play this game? Seriously. EX_MaTT has it right, if your Vega gets rushed down, you’re the real scrub. If you didn’t notice, Vega has a lot of ways to remedy this, and real pros don’t lose their claws as much as you seem to think. Back to scrubs, I commend you on your excellent observation, GameFAQs is full of scrubs, which makes it sad that I learned more about CvS2 than I ever will here. SRK doesn’t get as in-depth as GameFAQs. Some of the scrubs at GameFAQs would probably give you a run for your money. Lastly, they don’t insist that RC is the cure for anything, where the hell have you been? Hell, why’d you even post here? You don’t have shit for business in this thread!

O shut up
a week ago u said u were gonna OCV everyone with Vega

You dont even need RC with vega to stop rushdown
s.hk, c.hp, stops a lot of shit even c.lp does, if they low jump c.mp or s.mp. Air to Air mk or mp owns almost everything

Here’s the way I look at it.

god tier: sagat/blanka
top tier: cammy
upper-mid tier: hibiki/vega/bison

Vega works great on hibiki, yamazaki, and a ton of other guys. HE loses pretty badly to Cammy and Bison. I think it’s almost even between Vega and Sagat but he loses against Blanka. Vega’s normals are great and the problem Vega has is against characters who can get around those normals. Cammy’s jump short is very good against Vega as is her dive-kick. Bison can get in close with a scissor kick and use his guard-crush ability to land a huge combo.

umm, nope vega is not top tier. did i say he sucks tho? no i didnt. he is the BH of CvS2. SRK doesnt get as indepth as gamefaqs? hahaha, you are smokin crack boy. their solution to everything is to roll cancel. shows what do they know.

haha

SRK >> Gamefaqs

hell they think megaman is top tier in mvc2 cuz hp does a fireball!!

Look, I downright hate Vega, and even I know he’s top tier. He’s got the tools. USE them before you start going around rambling. Heck, I can play Vega.

yes i did say that, but obviously i changed my mind about vega being GOD-tier after i learned his weakeness from Ouroborous.
however, it doesn’t mean i can’t OCV u with vega tho :bluu:

obviously the thigns that he pointed out were good points. unlike u, if u want to defend vega as a top tier, atleast say something useful.

and ur saying my vega is useless, why dunt’ u use urs against my?

wtf
I pointed out shit in past posts if u bothered to friggin read
O ya you sleep in and miss your exams, cause you’re too busy playing CvS2 day and night. I wouldnt expect you to know how to read

My Vega sucks ass vs other Vega’s
I’ll play your vega with Nak or Chun

sure, wanna bet some money on that as well?

R4 vs R4 rite??

I’ll bet you money
Then throw it in your face :lol:
:wink:

STFU azn strider

I say Vega is top-tier, but borderline top-tier.

Blanka
Sagat
Bison
Cammy
Chun-Li
Sakura
E.Honda
Vega

The one thing that keeps him up there is that he does pretty well against Blanka and Sagat.

Ex-MaTT>> I’m not gonna quote anything that Wolfy said about anyone’s particular skills, because he’s a very modest guy, and I’m not gonna trashtalk on his behalf. However, what I WILL tell you is that, from what I hear, he is MORE than a little better than you and more importantly, you stand no chance against me. Mississauga treated Wolfy well, and I respect your community for that, but as far as skill is concerned, none of Sauga’s best would make our top 10.

I also hear that none of you guys ever RC, so don’t pretend you CAN RC consistently, but choose not to because it “doesn’t fit your style”.

Seriously, when they day comes when you meet me, we’ll see if you speak the same way.