CPS3 Broken!!!

[Overworld]

I just hope the price of it comes down, since I’d always wanted to get a cab and 3S but didn’t want to invest all that money in something that could possibly break on me.

It’s amazing what talent and spare time can accomplish.

[Shodokan123]

once 3s can be played on my pc… i will need to buy a 3s board so i can legally use it on it lol

[kowal]

http://emu.makii.pl/njus_detal.php3?id=1962&lang=pl
xDDDD

[Dragonfave723]

http://emu.makii.pl/njus_detal.php3?id=1962&lang=pl
xDDDD

I can’t read Polish, but, jeez, it’s starting to come alive…

[nothingxs]

I can’t read Polish, but, jeez, it’s starting to come alive…

ooooooooooooooooh shit.

can’t wait for this thing to come to fruition.

[SaBrE]

just a warning. anyone discussing where to get images/roms/bios and how to get the roms to work will be banned without warning. i already made an example out of one person today. so please dont do it. i dont like playing the asshole role, but i will, in order to keep this website legal

[n8archer_XI]

closer still we get to an actual emulator…

sweat

[azngouki]

I can’t wait…I’m gettin excited

[elitericerocket]

So is the only real hype over portability? (laptop play) Or is an emulated version actually as good as getting the whole CPS3 kit and playing it on supergun or how ever it works? Is emulated 3S going to be better than the PS2 version on Anniversary Collection? I don’t know that much about MAME and such, so answers would be appreciated.

[elvis_a_presley]

once 3s can be played on my pc… i will need to buy a 3s board so i can legally use it on it lol

Sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. Even if you own the original board, you can’t legally play the emulated version. That’s not the way copyright law works, I’m afraid.

So is the only real hype over portability? (laptop play) Or is an emulated version actually as good as getting the whole CPS3 kit and playing it on supergun or how ever it works? Is emulated 3S going to be better than the PS2 version on Anniversary Collection? I don’t know that much about MAME and such, so answers would be appreciated.

MAME on a computer supports:

1. infinite replay/video saves

2. in-time memory snapshots (infinite high scores, win/loss stats, etc) - pause and resume from that point any time you like (great for practice on/against certain moves)

3. easy scaling and aspect ratio control for hi-def TVs (get rid of low res to hi def lag)

4. PERFECT RESOLUTION (none of this upscaled/interlaced crap)

5. various scaling effects to smooth/sharpen visuals:
   http://scale2x.sourceforge.net/

6. Netplay (love it or hate it)

Some of these features are 100% available on console ports, and some are partially there.

For purists, nothing will ever beat the CPS3 arcade system. And to a point, I can agree with that. I play 3S on PS2 because the CPS3 board is expensive and prone to suicide, and because it’s the best of a bad bunch of legal options to own 3S. Ditto for JoJo on Dreamcast. Once phoenix chips appear and are made available, I’ll be going down that path as I can finally own a genuine CPS3 and not worry about it suiciding on me.

[Chozen1]

This had better not be a joke.

nope naomi bios has been dumped already from what i’ve seen

[Taiki]

Sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. Even if you own the original board, you can’t legally play the emulated version. That’s not the way copyright law works, I’m afraid.

Actually, it does work that way. The Library of Congress has the authority to overrule the Copyright Law in certain areas where deemed necessary, and they’ve deemed that the breaking of encryption to make applications and games playable on other platforms for archival purposes on obsolete platforms LEGAL despite the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. So, as long as you own a legitimate motherboard and ROMs, you can play it on MAME. Same goes for ROMs on most other systems.

see: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

MAME on a computer supports:

1. infinite replay/video saves

2. in-time memory snapshots (infinite high scores, win/loss stats, etc) - pause and resume from that point any time you like (great for practice on/against certain moves)

3. easy scaling and aspect ratio control for hi-def TVs (get rid of low res to hi def lag)

4. PERFECT RESOLUTION (none of this upscaled/interlaced crap)

5. various scaling effects to smooth/sharpen visuals:
   http://scale2x.sourceforge.net/

6. Netplay (love it or hate it)

netPlay is not in the official mame source tree. neither is scaling or smoothing effects(in the sense of the DirectX stuff that MAME32 does or the stuff MacMAME or MAMEX etc do). Also, unless you feel like playing your games scrunch up in a box, the actual resolution WILL upscale and depending on how you setup mame, possibly stretch.

[elvis_a_presley]

Actually, it does work that way. The Library of Congress has the authority to overrule the Copyright Law in certain areas where deemed necessary, and they’ve deemed that the breaking of encryption to make applications and games playable on other platforms for archival purposes on obsolete platforms LEGAL despite the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. So, as long as you own a legitimate motherboard and ROMs, you can play it on MAME. Same goes for ROMs on most other systems.

see: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

Yes, but only if YOU dump it. Downloading someone else’s dump and playing it is still deemed illegal.

Tell me now - do most MAME users dump their own ROMs? :razzy:

netPlay is not in the official mame source tree. neither is scaling or smoothing effects(in the sense of the DirectX stuff that MAME32 does or the stuff MacMAME or MAMEX etc do). Also, unless you feel like playing your games scrunch up in a box, the actual resolution WILL upscale and depending on how you setup mame, possibly stretch.

I personally use AdvanceMAME on Linux with SVGAlib on a 15KHz arcade monitor, which gives me true arcade low-resolution progressive scan graphics. No “scrunched up in a box” graphics for me.

On higher res systems, it also supports Scale2X, 4X, and a host of other graphical effects. If you prefer to play on hi-def TVs instead of low-res monitors.

When I refer to “MAME”, I refer to “MAME”. Being an open source project, it has the advantage of being open to different enhancements and builds. I know what you’re getting at, but you know as well as I do that different builds exist with these features enabled.

[Taiki]

Yes, but only if YOU dump it. Downloading someone else’s dump and playing it is still deemed illegal.

Tell me now - do most MAME users dump their own ROMs? :razzy:

It’s an exact digital copy. there’s no way to prove you didn’t dump it yourself… edit: Of course, some ROM formats do support header data, etc. so OTHER THAN THAT… I’m 90% sure that no MAME ROMset has any sort of header data.

(never mind that dumping from the SIMMs isn’t exactly easy >_>)

I personally use AdvanceMAME on Linux with SVGAlib on a 15KHz arcade monitor, which gives me true arcade low-resolution progressive scan graphics. No “scrunched up in a box” graphics for me.

On higher res systems, it also supports Scale2X, 4X, and a host of other graphical effects. If you prefer to play on hi-def TVs instead of low-res monitors.

When I refer to “MAME”, I refer to “MAME”. Being an open source project, it has the advantage of being open to different enhancements and builds. I know what you’re getting at, but you know as well as I do that different builds exist with these features enabled.

Just sayin’ that MAME’s a mixed bag when it comes to features and the only features you can say that ARE in MAME period are what’s in the base package, and even that’s not always the same. I try to be specific when it comes to MAME >_>

[Azagtoth]

So is the only real hype over portability? (laptop play) Or is an emulated version actually as good as getting the whole CPS3 kit and playing it on supergun or how ever it works? Is emulated 3S going to be better than the PS2 version on Anniversary Collection? I don’t know that much about MAME and such, so answers would be appreciated.

Aside from everything elvis_a_presley mentioned, you are basically playing the actual cps3 version of the game, but the differences between the cps3 and ps2 versions are the game are very minor, so one isn’t exactly going to be “better” than playing on the other for anything other than aesthetic/convenience reasons.

[ill_will]

Does this mean that soon i can play 3S emulated so it goes the real arcade speed instead of the slightly speed up ps2 anniversarry edition if im running it from a xbox or something?

[Shodokan123]

Does this mean that soon i can play 3S emulated so it goes the real arcade speed instead of the slightly speed up ps2 anniversarry edition if im running it from a xbox or something?

yes will

[MKKhanzo]

Off topic: Sorry for the n00bish question but how goes that of CPS3 “suicide” stuff?

[GosBroDansFan]

Actually, it does work that way. The Library of Congress has the authority to overrule the Copyright Law in certain areas where deemed necessary, and they’ve deemed that the breaking of encryption to make applications and games playable on other platforms for archival purposes on obsolete platforms LEGAL despite the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. So, as long as you own a legitimate motherboard and ROMs, you can play it on MAME. Same goes for ROMs on most other systems.

see: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/

No. You are unfortunately incorrect because playing it on MAME would not be considered legitimate preservation/archival use.

The short blurb about the rule might be misleading but if you read through what’s actually on the register, copyright holders responded to the suggestion of this rule specifically about video games and the fact that video games can be re-released on new platforms and the language of the rule was constructed to ensure that this rule only applies when the circumvention of access control is for legitimate preservation and archiving specifically, including the idea that this rule does not threaten in any way the potential sales of re-released versions of games that were at some point released on obsolete platforms.

[Taiki]

No. You are unfortunately incorrect because playing it on MAME would not be considered legitimate preservation/archival use.

The short blurb about the rule might be misleading but if you read through what’s actually on the register, copyright holders responded to the suggestion of this rule specifically about video games and the fact that video games can be re-released on new platforms and the language of the rule was constructed to ensure that this rule only applies when the circumvention of access control is for legitimate preservation and archiving specifically, including the idea that this rule does not threaten in any way the potential sales of re-released versions of games that were at some point released on obsolete platforms.

It says nothing about rereleases or ports.

Computer programs and video games distributed in formats that have become obsolete and that require the original media or hardware as a condition of access, when circumvention is accomplished for the purpose of preservation or archival reproduction of published digital works by a library or archive. A format shall be considered obsolete if the machine or system necessary to render perceptible a work stored in that format is no longer manufactured or is no longer reasonably available in the commercial marketplace.

I’m pretty sure the LoC is aware that a port of a game to another platform isn’t the same as the game on the original platform. With what miniscule differences there are.