^ Does the Sumoto come with vibration support? It does have a PS button though right?
Since the inPins are still out of stock I might go with either that or the HAIS. However the list doesn’t say if they’re compatible with a PS1 DS. Can anyone confirm they do or do not?
Also everyone who’ve tested converters for lag are you all testing for dropped inputs as well? I mean, you only have to press one button for that input test program, but during actual gameplay you’re moving the stick and pressing multiple buttons in quick succession. Might create lag.
ive just finished testing my custom psx1 pcb arcade stick with the xfps 3. for me it seems to work lag free on pc and 360. didnt have any problems with missing inputs or something.
(there realy seem to be differences with the pcbs. i have used a scph-1200 H pcb.)
I haven’t tried the Sumoto with a Dual Shock yet, just a Hori Tekken 5 stick, and it does have a PS button, as well as 4 directional buttons (?). As for dropped inputs I haven’t taken it into training mode yet, but I used it for gameplay and did special moves, combos and 3 button supers without issue for over an hour. I’ll make a little time to run it through the wringer later, but my initial impression is very good.
Perhaps I can help a bit, I have most of these adapters.
HAIS: Press Up+Select on the D-PAD to access the XMB menu. Press the DualShock’s Analog button or press and hold Up+Select to access the PS system menu. This one has a PS button on the adapter, 4 LEDs, and a memory card slot.
Yobo: Works the same as HAIS except has no PS button on the adapter, LEDs, or mem card slot.
The Ant Commandos/Rock Commandos: Press the Analog button to access the XMB menu,** press and hold** the Analog button to access the system menu. Up+Select does nothing. This one has 4 LEDs.
Hyperkin: Press the Analog button once to access the XMB menu, double-press the Analog button to access the system menu. This one has 4 LEDs. Up+Select does nothing.
Sumoto: same as Hyperkin but also has a PS button on the actual adapter along with 4 directional buttons (so you can use the menus from the adapter itself). This one has 4 LEDs. Up+Select does nothing.
Tinybee: Press the Analog button once or Press Up+Select to access the XMB menu, double-press the Analog button or Press and hold Up+Select to access the system menu. This one has 4 LEDs.
PC Type: These adapters were made for PC USB (not PS3), and have no PS button functions. You don’t have to activate these adapters like you do with all of the others above (I think that these adapters are seen by the system as a PS2 gamepad, whereas the others are seen as a PS3 gamepad). The Analog button acts as just that. The DragonPlus v1, Super Dual Box Advance (Jietron), and PIII Model 538 are all this type. As far as I can tell, any PS2-PC USB adapter will work like this.
So I finally put the Sumoto PS2/PS3 converter I got from Omega Collectibles off ebay through it’s paces tonight. Used 3rd Strike as my test game this time. The test was:
Use Akuma in training mode - do every special from both sides, use combos with cancels into a Goushoryu super art, throws, taunts and Shun Goku Satsu from both sides.
Results:
Hori Tekken 5 Anniversary - No issues
Pelican Real Arcade PS2 - No issues
Sony Dual Shock 2 - No issues
Nuby Street Fighter Anniversary Pad - No issues
PS1 Ascii Stick PS - No issues
Sony Dual Shock - No issues
GameStop PS1 Dual Analog Controller - No issues
Now I’m no serious tournament player, but DO I know what a laggy stick feels like, and I really couldn’t be more impressed with this converter. It’s taken everything I’ve thrown at it and hasn’t even hiccuped, and that includes just swapping controllers and sticks all willy-nilly all night to see if I could feel a difference. I haven’t used the other good one yet, but I can’t see it being too much better than this.
Quality seems good, the cable is a little short but not too stubby, and it doesn’t support rumble. That’s really the only down side I can see to the Sumoto!
I had a busy weekend without much opportunity to troll SRK. The OP should pretty much be up to date with everyone’s submissions. I also added some PS1 Digital testing I did as well as other info I’ve come across. Thanks for all of the recent posts.
Yobo: I’ll get this one added soon since a few people apparently own it.
Hyperkin, Tinybee: I couldn’t find enough posts on these to do a write-up.
MarkMan also mentioned that this thread may get merged into the other converter thread. Obviously that hasn’t happened but I hope I still have the ability to edit my posts.
I’ll buy a HAIS (dealextreme) and test it out. I was going to go with the sumoto but the hais select+up feature is a really great feature. The REAL adapter has the same feature and I use it all the time! If the HAIS works just as good as my REAL I’ll be selling my REAL and be buying a couple HAIS!
It should be noted that the REAL is kinda flimsy. It unhooks out of the USB socket really quickly… as in it doesn’t hold tight. Also, I left one in the car for an hour and the USB head melted… seems to be made of cheap aluminium or something lol.
Anyone tried this out yet? I can’t tell who makes it, but someone on slickdeals posted the link. S/he also claimed that it worked fine on his PS3, in addition to PC. For $5.90 + free shipping, I almost wanted to pick 5 up and ask questions later. Almost. Thought I’d ask for an opinion here first.
You’ll see many converters that look just like that on ebay and amazon… I have one myself and in addition to it lagging it also drops inputs every now and again. I was playing megaman x3 with it and I SWORE I pressed jump at the right time in certain areas… and sure enough I was and it was just that converter lagging and dropping inputs.
On PS3 on VF5 it doesn’t even register directions for some reason… lol.
okay i’m returning one TAC adapter because it’s not compatible with PSX Digital Pad. I’m getting the HAIS one… but should I pay for the EMS shipping? Actually, Shipping is like 19 bucks on these bad boys! that makes this converter $30+!!! are there any other pretty decent converters that can do PSX digital? I’m keeping a TAC and returning the other, just because One PCB was constructed with a Dual Shock, the other was a PSX Digital (Rev. A I think…)
Thanks for the review and confirmation it works with PS1 DS. I’ll pick this up and try it out with SF4 and MAME. Description says it works with dancepads so I’ll test it with StepMania as well. PS3 isn’t b/c however and I don’t have VF5 so I can’t test any PS2 games.
PS button on converter is good enough for me. I play PS3 with a Logitech controller and only use the DS3 for the home button so I’m not worried about the no up+select option or rumble support.
The Sumoto converter is $15 shipped on eBay and supports digital PCBs. I’d go that route since you’ll probably also receive it sooner.
Sure thing. I’ll pick up one of these whenever my stick sells (shameless plug :nono:). I’m a little short on cash otherwise from working on my Saturn to PS2/360 pads. I wish everything would get in already so I could start on those.