Comp. Pokemon Thread MK2: Let's Go Back To Kanto Like Everyone Wanted!

First Impression so gud

I’m so excited to have tank bewear bust some ass

How the fuck can you click “disagree” on a factual statement completely devoid of opinion?

How big of a cunt do you have to be to go through the trouble of following a person from thread to thread and click buttons like a jilted stalker?

This motherfucker out here holding a grudge like a Banette, with all the effectiveness of one, to boot…

Smeargle, my man.

Oh right, Smeargle. GF really likes to make us work huh. I’ll just test my luck for a Riolu with it as an egg move in a future Wonder Trade. Lol

Most Veil teams (including the one I ran) had Bisharp. Having said that I wonder if hazards in general will drop off since every one will have Defog. I personally think veil is more valuable than rocks.

Most veil teams did not carry bisharp lol. It was usually mega ttar, manaphy, magearna, and a couple other set up sweepers

Webs used bisharp a lot and that might be scarier than veil thanks to the few new mons we get (araquinid and ribombee) but i can assure you bisharp and veil was not a thing

When I saw veil I typically saw magearna manaphy Bisharps greninja lati and some obscure mon that I would almost never see otherwise. I am speaking specifically if encounters I had. Bisharps were on 7/10 teams I would see

(I think Landorus-Therian getting Defog might have managed to make me even more disinterested in OU in Gen 7.)

I’m not sure what I am disappointed by more: that, predictably, there are no new Alola mons, meaning we stuck with the mostly mediocre-at-best ones (and Raticate-Alola), or that we honestly didn’t get any new interesting pokemon in general. Besides the massive padding out of the cartridge experience, which like about half of the people in this thread aren’t actually interested in, Ultra honestly didn’t really do anything besides throw Z-moves at things semi-randomly and pad out only some of the Gen 7 pokemon’s barren movepools, if barely. Hurray…

Oh well. At least Drain Punch Bewear and Spider Webs Araquanid and Ribombee is nice as far as UU is concerned.

Parsing the lists:
Tutors
Lycanroc learns Drill Run. :confused:
Ash Greninja learns Gunk Shot now.
Kommo-o finally learns Iron Head for Fairy Coverage
Knock Off Toxapex is always broken and it’s unbelievable that it exists now.
Magic Coat Toxapex exists now even though it doesn’t deserve to.
Pain Split Toxapex exists now even though it doesn’t deserve to.
Pain Split Alolan Muk seems cool
Tapu Bulu didn’t need Synthesis too.
Celesteela didn’t get defog! Eat dick.
Damn @“white shadow” we peeped alot of the same stuff.

I’m not touching the egg moves with a five foot pole though. Too much stuff to look through.

Im really upset that we didnt get any new alolan forms. We basically got Alola-Marowak as a game changer and that was it. It’s barely been that as well. Alola-Ninetails is literally just Aurora Veil the pokemon.

I wanted alola Dragonite :cry:

It was obvious from the beginning who was getting Alolan Forms and why.

Gen 1’s Pokedex was lacking in certain types that have proliferated since Gen 2 and up, like Dark, Dragon, Steel, and Fairy, and the Mons who got said forms were trawling around in obscurity and uselessness. Except for Ninetales… That one was an anomaly.

If you were a Mon that experienced any sort of popularity, meme or otherwise, got a typing/evolution/Mega, you weren’t getting any Alola action.

If anything, I’m surprised Farfetch’d didn’t get shit… But I guess that’s part of the meme thing.

Farfetch’d got a 30 point attack buff and some cool moves

It’s still trash but they gave it something!

Alolan Muk also gets the Elemental punches too. I know Ice Punch is certainly useful.

@“The Damned” Defog Lando-T is probably going to be niche anyway, I can see it on as an emergency scarfer on HO teams for role compression since it threatens so many mons. Lando-T for balance/bulky offense is likely to remain the same.

This…or at least Brave Bird.

for Gen 8 I want 80 BP Wing Attack

I would greatly like if U-Turn and Volt Switch got nerfed in power and/or if Gamefreak made Fairy and Ice types balanced (and gave us another Ghost resistance back).

I’m not expecting anything from Gamefreak though, especially since they’ve basically intentionally been screwing over Singles for a while.

Oh hey, you took my quotation mark instructions to mind.

Anyway, yeah, I know it’s probably going to be niche. I’m just rolling my eyes at Landorus-Therian’s over-stacked ass getting more shit when some of the far weaker mons couldn’t even get anything. Gen 7 OU just seems super boring to me, that’s all, and I was never under the impression that Landorus-Therian was going to decrease in usage or get banned. So the genies getting buffs is a slight slap in the face even if I always found weird that Tornadus never got Defog.

As for Alola-Muk, I would argue that the most important Elemental Punch it gets is Fire Punch.

IDK, Gen 7 OU was pretty hilarious when people were losing to Whack-a-mole, his son, and sometimes even Trapinch.

a The Damned post below 500 characters?? Time is aaachangiiiiing

You cant really nerf uturn/volt switch. Bringing it down to base 65 does nothing. Going lower makes technician users much scarier (and basically would break scizor). Voltswitch is fine as is

Arean trap was a huge issue. There were tournaments where if dugtrio trapped something successfully, it was a win. 100% guaranteed. There is no direct counterplay to trapping and involves making that hard read at all times. The first suspect proved that dugtrio wasnt the issue as teams used Diglett to essentially the same success. The meta is much more fun without arena trap and hopefully gets better with the huge increase in viable hazard removal.

Landorus-T is not going to get banned. It’s used a lot because It’s the best role compressor ever, not because it’s actually broken. There are too many strong things for us to deal with that I have no idea what shit meta there would be without it. It’s essentially a necessary evil.

Technician U-Turn would be an absolute buff.

No thanks.

Arena Trap is easy to deal with. Do you have an attack that does damage? Use it.

Oh, is your shitty wall/pivot that has no real offensive presence getting got? Git gud and stop being obvious with your switch ins.

We used to laugh at people getting their Blisseys rekt by Dugtrio or getting revenge killed in Gen 3… What happened that made the player base so weak?