I’m pretty sure people generally agree with those rankings actually. The game’s too young to get everything set in stone but Sagat is definitely retarded good and the top 4/bottom 3 or 4 are pretty much the same in most of the tier lists that aren’t by random no-name players.
Dunno if this one is random no-name players though.
Andrew have u seen HDR chun? she can run away w/ air SBK and get meter(ryu style). And lightning legs are easy to execute, maybe too easy? I’ve seen people(american players:amazed:) buffering close strong to RH LL for beefy dmg.
EDIT: Crystalis is kinda :lame:
EDIT 2: I think that tier list is from some Jp mag.?
Also, I think i’ve found the options for 3S to make it more sf2 ish: It’s like my own personal sf4.
-all blue parries off
-red parry easiest input 4/4 * (default 2/4 *)
-Absolute guard on(sf2 style: block all after blocking 1st hit, this makes red parrying safe)
-Extreme guard (take chip from normals, less turtle)
-can NOT be KO’ed by chip dmg
-cancel/buffer ALL normals (command overheads to supers!)
-start match w/ meter (A3 style)
-ex moves are cheaper 2/4 * (1/4 * is free, 3/4 * is default)
-no meter for whiffed normals (less turtle)
-Timer at 60 instead of 99 (no option to speed up time like arcade)
-build meter faster 4/4 * (default 3/4 *, less turtle)
-vitality at 5/7 * (a lil less dmg, console dmg seems high? default 4/7 *)
-stun meters adjusted: mid is now small(ie. akuma/remy size). chars that were big(ie. oro, hugo, Q) are now mid. No more large.
-stun taken is same/default (3/4 *), stun recovery is a lil slower 2/4 * (default 3/4 *, 1/4 * is NO recover)
Messed around w/ dash cancel normals. Fun as hell, but kinda broken.
Messed w/ super art stock amounts, this just helps/hurts genei jin/raging demon.
If Denjin hadoken isn’t banned then ryu’s got a shot at S-tier. There might be a lot of reversal SA’s that can get out of a meaty denjin (XNDL, chun SA2, stun gun, oro ex SA 1, makoto SA 3)? IDK, I think it’s gotta be banned w/ no parries.
Crazy. I guess I need to see more of the game then.
Not yet.
Darn. I’m in favor of moves being easier but I always spend a lot of time figuring out gimmicky ways to get lightning legs/use it in combos in whatever game I play her in, guess I’ll have to spend my time on something useful instead 
I’ll probably try to switch to Cammy or Blanka in HDR though anyway.
You know, you can think that and I’m fine with it and I’m at peace with it because as human beings we all have flaws. I forgive you.
Andrew - oh c’mon man, Crystalis is an awful, awful game. I feel like I’m forcing myself to eat Lima beans or somethin’ while i’m playing it. Castlevania 2 is a better game than that?
Paul - are u down for games tomorrow night?
I love turning the aircombo ability up to 4/4.
You can make up some stupid funny juggles.
My favorite with Sean: lp dp->lk roll repeat lolol.
Maybe you’re just allergic to SNK
edit: In all seriousness I’ve had Crystalis memorized since I was really young so I don’t know if I’d still enjoy it if I was playing it for the first time today. The difference between Crystalis and Castlevania 2, besides Crystalis being better by an order of magnitude, is once you know Crystalis you can rush through it really fast. Even if you know Castlevania 2 like the back of your hand it’s frustratingly slow and boring.
I think hitting the level cap early in Crystalis requires less grinding total than saving up for the chain whip alone in Castlevania 2.
I should have more info on the particulars soon (specifically when I’m coming home) but basically options to spend a second semester in Japan didn’t pan out. I’m planning on coming back in January, it’d be sooner but my parents are visiting Japan over the winter break.
I forget if I posted this here or not, but the problem was I actually placed into the highest level here and there isn’t a class for me to take next semester. The program director made it sound like I could easily transfer to other universities here, but most of their deadlines were actually before our placement test here – in other words, before I even knew this was going to be an issue. I’m kind of pissed I won’t be able to work on my Japanese, but I’m going to nag MU until they let me do independent study back home and I may try to get into a Japanese university next September so hopefully I’ll still be able to improve some.
I kinda want to hit a tournament for old times’ sake when I get back. I don’t think I’m interested in GG right now, I guess we can just try to get into HDR.
Andrew - There’s just a lot of things that bother me in it. Yeah, I guess Castlevania 2 is really bad. At least crystalis has some ok boss fights(wish there were more of them). I would say Crystalis didn’t age as well as Zelda, FF, or dragon warrior.
Paul - what’s up? you check these boards any more or do u have Obama fever today?
Or does Monique have Palin fever?:wgrin: You wanna play some shit tonight or what?
Edit: level cap? please explain.
Vega, Balrog, Sagat, Sim, Ryu I all fear more than chun and theres a decent chun player in st louis. I wouldnt be too worried bout that bitch. Toning down the df hk move seems like the only thing that needed to be changed. I mean, anything else would be nerfing a character HARD thats not even a true top tier.
talking crystalis? i had never heard of it but there was a big discusion going on in 2df a few days ago about its greatness, nigga was saying it was better than zelda :/, its NES right? Should i check it out?
And street fighter four seems pretty balanced. Nothing seems too broken right now, sagat is good but hes no CvS2 blanka/sagat or 3s/a2 chun. I am a bit worried about all these new characters there adding for the console version, it just seems like theres such a high probability of one being broken and if there not then they will probably be weaker than most of the cast. SF4 sim is a dark horse IMO too, seems like he can realy keep alot of characters out and has some neat mixups. Anyway i just cant wait for release, i hope it will be big all over missouri. I miss tournys in KC/Columbia :(.
Sorry man, my phone was at home charging while I was at Ragtag watching the election :bgrin: We’ll have to play sometime this weekend.
Rex - DECENT chun player? How modest of you. SF4 looks… ok, i guess? Yeah the console chars aren’t really making me smile either :/. HDR chun backwards meter building spinning BK just bothers me. It’s like she’s storm now (or someshit?) run away and build meter for one of the better supers in the game. She didn’t need that.
Crystalis? check it out, it has some cool points… just not many:bgrin:
Yeah but one of them is Sakura :3 :3 :3 :3 :3
I’m sure I’ll get over it when I play Chun again (or maybe when I play GG again) but I’m really jazzed about Cammy and Blanka in HDR.
It’s ok andrew, just play Guilty again. We all try to get away and it doesn’t work. If you just keep playing you feel less like a tool when you cave and go back to it anyway!
I’ll second Cammy in HDR looking cool; it’ll be fun to at least experiment with everyone again once it’s released (this month whoo :party:)
Also, sucks about having to come home early. I wish it would have worked out for you otherwise, but it’ll be nice to see ya
Yeah sakura does make me happy, i been plaing a shit load of Alpha on 2df. Chun’s backwards spk could be annoying, but shes never had a problem building meter. Her fireball game(or at least nick’s >_<) is realy fucking good. I geuss we will have to see how they toned her super, if its damage is noticeably lower i think she will actauly drop tier wise, though easier lightning kicks will help. Thats nick’s biggest weapon and there a bitch to deal with, if everyone is busting them out with ease now…uh yeah, watch out.
Cammy in sthd will prolly be a beast. Good cammys in ST are tough, good hooligan and normal throw mix up off of many different normals is crazy. J mp is sooo good, and can lead to throw or poke to throw or poke to hooligan unnnnghgh. Paul dont you play deejay? I would keep my eye on him, been playing some good deejays lately and if hes buffed damn. He is so hard to approach and his c.mk beats like everything. And it goes without saying that you shouldnt let him cross you up.
Any of you guys gonna be on Xlive for SThd?
Sakura in sf4 is the biggest eye roller. Can we please have 1 fuckin’ capcom game she is NOT in!? Where is Ibuki? Now that might be capcom’s deepest char in a SF? She would be a good addition. Gen is also a deep char (and watching Leonhart from Mikado play Gen in A2 is a real treat). It’ll be interesting to see how he works in sf4?
REx- I’ll prolly buy a PS3 when i figure out which one i want.
Devil May Cry 4
Street Fighter 3
Sakura is not in CFJ beleive it or not, but almost every other capcom fighting game including the EX series, pocket fighter, puzzle fighter, AND Rival schools!!! Ibuki gets pocket fighter… yay? Just wait though, she was one of the front runners on their goofy poll over at cap-unity that got cammy into sf4.
After reading that interview w/ Arturo on the main page, I kinda want to give arcana heart another look. He is talking about 2. I don’t know the order of release, so is that available? Chris u got that right? Or do u have the previous ver.?
I’m almost positive the Alpha characters in CFJ are Guy, Rose, Karin and Sakura. I remember this because I remember she like turns into a gym teacher when you hit her with Midnight Bliss… which I guess is a pretty sad reason.
I actually wanted to get into AH after watching vids of Andy’s Heart (Chicago player), but I didn’t want to admit to it for fear of being laughed out of this thread.