Not until I get some hands on time with Strider. I have MvC2 but I get blown up online and I’m sure his MvC2 counterpart is a LOT different only because MvC3 seems more combo based whereas 2 was all about a few combos with lots of resets.
Well in Max’s new video, he says Strider probably has around 650,000 HP lol. But he is still looking fresh.
I still wish they bring his health up to Zero’s level, i really don’t understand why people have a problem with it. It’s not like +50 pts will make over powered. He needs a small health increase from what i saw in Max’s video. 7 hits off ryu took that much out of him?
I watched Max’s video. 650k? really? strider must be one sneaky mofo to hide some disgustingly cheap technology no one’s found yet because from what I’ve been seeing in the videos, I’m not too impressed to justify that 650k health. it could be the new health bars though, and the fact that everyone and their mother got health nerfs in Ultimate.
650k?
not amused in the least bit. let me stop before the usual ppl post 23234324 responses about how we want our shoes tied for us by wanting a health increase.
let me just end this post by saying that i’m not into any phoenix gimmicky type shit. at all.
moving along…so can strider do double jump combos still? i know he can relaunch, according to max if you do something like c. L, c. M, c. H, S, j. H, qcf L (or whatever), s. H, S, j. M, j. M, j. H, j. S but can a double jump be put somewhere before or after the relaunch?
i guess nobody will know the answer until the next time capcom brings umvc3 out but please, somebody check. thanks. put all of that together then add satellite on the end of that with an OTG assist and see if you can do:
-a teleport mixup into orbs
-teleport, throw into another combo
-use the OTG assist to combo into orbs or ragnarok
etc.
i guess if all else fails after the OTG assist you could do legion.
No one owns UMvC3, there for no one can find out his amazing technology. Once the game gets released and people get to use him outside of panels, you will see some crazy stuff.
yes, i’m aware of that. meanwhile ppl will and do have access to the build at these lil conventions so i’m asking someone that will go to the next one, whenever that is, if they will try whats in my post above.
Maybe we should go to Unity and make a petition for a health increase, just around Zero or Spiderman’s health. If he appears too op, then they can always send a patch to put his health back to what it is now.
Anyway, i’ve been thinking of Deadpool/Dante or Vergil as a team for strider. My problem with Deadpool is that his assists suck IMO, but he is probably my favorite Marvel character. I’m aesthetic, and a sword team is interesting to me.
Ehh. I remember people complaining that Phoenix had too little vitality before the original MvC3 came out. Honeslty, if Strider has so little health, there is probably a good reason as to why.
From what I’ve seen, he is super fast in both movement speed and normals. He has a series of teleports that can get him in and out of danger, a plethora of zoning and rushdown tools, a level 1 full screen super that hits OTG, a reasobably fast level 3 that can be easily comboed into AND a second level 3 that can lead to sick, sick lockdown and dirty resets (ugh, I don’t even know if you can make it even dirtier with assists).
That’s just at first glance. Imagine what he’ll be capable of once he’s in everyone’s hands. I quiver in fear at the thought.
yeah…no. i’m leaning towards registering for capcom unity and asking for a health increase, changing orbs to level 1 or 2 and a nerf in his specials/speed or whatever capcom needs nerfed in order for strider to have more health.
BUT
i’m reserving judgment (and i won’t register) until at least the end of september/early october when we have more chances to see the game. anything can happen between now and then but 650k health is not whats good IMO.
again, i’m not into the phoenix gimmick bullshit. i understand that this is a new game, and i’m grateful that strider is FINALLY included in the roster and all that…but his health and making orbs level 3 and legion otg is as ridiculous as denjin ryu and all of that. eh.
off topic but was it so hard to just make ryu like mvc1 where he could mimic ken and turn into evil ryu? denjin ryu…really?
Lol, just saying. If his health is so low there is probably a reason why. Once we get the game in our hands and figure the dude out we can probably see if he needs a health buff or not.
who cares if there is a reason why. I doubt the reason will be overwhelming. He appears to have every tool though… but seriously, adding +50 or so isn’t asking much. It’s more to ask for a level 1 oro than a +50 in HP.
if anything should be done to oro, it’s little satelites should hit also.
I can understand why ouro doesn’t hit anymore. I remember arguing about orbs being a instant Anti-phoenix tech before the announcement of Strider’s unclusion. Phoenix/DP can’t do shit if orbs could hit when touched.
The reason “why” is why they’re doing it to begin with though (if that makes any sense). Didn’t Seth say they experimented every which way with Phoenix before they settled with 420k being good enough? Plus, even with that pathetically low health she still manages to be a great character, most likely best in the game.
I’m sure the same is for Strider. Capcom probably, internally, experimented with every sliver of Strider’s health before they settled on what they have now. They probably tested it a long time before SDCC and found 650k is about right for the general gameplan.
Plus, as I said earlier, if Strider ends up, in the long run, to really suffer from the lower health (somehow), they could always quick patch him in some more. Like a reverse of Sentinel. All I’m saying is jumpin to comclusions on Strider’s health is kinda… premature.
a character having an edge on another should not be a reason to keep it like that. Have you tried getting in on dormammu w/ assists who has meter while you’re haggar? shit is ridiculous. Strider’s low health should let him have some sort of defense… phoenix has the healing field, i want satellites to hit 
Ehh, the fact that it fires a billion floating rings while Strider is free to teleport, jump and wall cling/wall jump around seems fair enough.
I think the health issue isn’t supported by those who want to put Strider on point.
Even presently, 6 hits from Ryu off a simple b&b can do 423,800 damage. Those 7 hits probably does close to 450,000. Things aren’t that bad, at worst I think Strider has 750,000 health.
Low health will be an issue with Strider no matter what position you play him in. You just need to live with it, make sure you don’t get hit and you don’t pair Strider with other low health characters.