Chun-li Video/Discussion Thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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PSN Sessions

I’ve got a few new videos on youtube for match up tips and C&C.
Foe of the week seemed to be Guy. A character I rarely see used and I don’t understand why. I think he’s freaking cool and everyone seemed to be using him this week, LoL. But anyway I really don’t have any clue how to approach this match up and I picked Hosenka in hopes to try some things out and fish for punishes. Definately not sure how to handle the elbow drop pressure other then to block or FA out of it. I wish I had a video of an A+ Guy I fought on Xbox Live that basically spammed it the whole fight and had some crazy mix ups, I blocked a ton of it but never could find a chance to go offensive, he kicked me out of the lobby after chipping me to death. Any thoughts on how to stop that stuff? Or what I can possibly punish with U1? I looked at the Thigh Life and Style Mag but there wasn’t much on Guy.

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Different Guy - Fought him 4 times and we tied 2-2, though I must say he absolutely rocked me with Sakura.

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Part 2
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OH YEAH! one more thing, how do you guys get such clear video? I’m rather unhappy with the quality of these vids and I’m not sure why they look so bad really. Then again I’m more of a art fella not a camera man, LOL!

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it wasnt a very solid guy imho, it was just lack of match up knowledge. From my experience (i´ve played a very good guy, a friend of mine used to main it) u have to learn to fight crouching and by that i mean no jumps towards (i mean it), guy´s st.hk and st.hp are a very good AA (as u can see in the last video), air to air j.mp and the elbow are just gdlk u cant beat it with target combo, dont get me started with the insta izuna drop that shit is crazy, in the other hand if guy jumps u can use st.mk and df.lk (and this is why i played kikosho in this MU), but if he uses the flips or runs u have to use either cr.mk or cr.mp, i love the cr.mk in this match up, anytime he use the elbow u can dodge it and throw him, and depending on the timing, guy actually lands on top of the cr.mk, making it super easy to land a cr.lk into EX LL, learn cr.mk links.

Every time u block a hozanto u can punish it with super, anytime u block and EX hozanto u can punish it with a cr.lk or cr.lp into BnB. In offense this MU works pretty similar to the rufus MU, by that i mean dont rush it if he have any EX meter, bait the wake up EX tatsu/Ex run, which is quite easy cuz guy´s EX tatsu cant hit you while crouching and actually u can meaty cr.mk any other version of the tatsu for a free punish (as u can see cr.mk is a very good tool in this MU); once guy has no meter RTSD. The main objective in this MU is to either have super and punish any slide/hozanto/etc. or to simply corner him, in there u can rape him… but if by any reason u are in the corner u are in deep shit, cuz guy can use a deadly mix up/reset game, if by any reason u are being reseted after his bushin chain combo use cr.lp as soon as u land, this way the bushin flip cant throw you, trust me on this.

Learn to tech properly, by that i mean Late OS crouch tech and Standing tech, very good guys are insanely good at frame trapping, guy´s CH cr.mp is something u have to respect, he can dish out +400 dmg from one counter hit, learn to Block and to Tech. Finally a few things to remember, dont ever use EX sbk in wake up (or at all actually) guy can stuff it with elbow or j.mk, if he throws you with the knees and then he jump twice block, that´s a safe jump, and a very tricky one, in the second jump he can use j.mk for a cross up, but he also can use elbow to fake the cross up, be aware; dont bother with kikokens aside blockstring (specially you, i never saw you use a single blockstring) u should not throw them, U1 have a very weird range and can use it to punish a silly kikoken.

TL;DR learn to fight crouching, learn to use cr.mk, dont jump, dont throw kikos, use U2, frame trap him, and learn to block/tech properly

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A question regarding those strings. Am I misunderstading them?
I can’t combo (do they need to combo?) them when I use st.strong but if I finish them with st.fierce I can get it. Is it a writing error or I simply can’t time it with st.strong?

And the third string, I do fine but fp kikoken is blocked (in training dummy). If I just do cr.mk and fp kikoken I get 2 hit combo, but I can’t get all 4 hits when doing cr.short, cr.jab, cr.mk, fp kikoken.

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Blockstrings are not necessarily combos, but they have to be confirmable, by that i mean if the cr.jab or the cr.lk actually hit the opp u do the EX LL BnB or the Fierce BnB, but if u confirm that either cr.lp or cr.lk were indeed blocked, u do either st.mp or cr.mk xx kikoken, this two options are not safe against some characters (rog, ryu, rufus, etc.) but is a way to push back your opp safely, building meter and gaining/reseting position in the process, if you do cr.lk xx Ex LL blindly u are wasting meter for a few chip pixels, instead u can use the blockstrings below to avoid that kind of situations hope this helps you

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[LEFT]Like i said i not very fond with EX LL as a blockstring, but can work if u need that chip for the kill. To me blockstrings are frame traps opportunities, this way im always looking for them[/LEFT]

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Thanks! It’s interesting how a fighting game might seem so simple yet it is so deep. Almost as if I’m playing a strategy game

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you are, sf is a strategic and a tactic game

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Borrowed sister’s camera to record some vids from Saturday’s meet.


Edit- oops. Here’s part 2 of the Rufus match. http://youtu.be/1xokd9rN0HA

Ghetto, but it’s the best I could do, I was practically sitting in between the two players lol.
More to be uploaded tomorrow.

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A Chun Li OCVs a team with -6 Cammy and 666 Yang

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sick chun

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i love that chun ;_; anyone knows the name?

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according to the video desription it’s efte

Here’s another vid of that guy (girl?)


I don’t want to freak anyone out but at 1:26 a counter hit cl.hk didn’t combo into mk.hasanshu. Could be a slow cancel.

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thx!

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Uploading of tourney still in progress

At :40, huh, upkicks to U1. I never thought of that… the scaling is bad though.

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I’m pretty sure that combo was part of Chun’s trials even back in the Vanilla version.

And I have to say, I haven’t seen anyone get away with ex-legs reversals so much in a long time :smiley:

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Oh :lol: I knew there was a reason I didn’t sell off my copy of Vanilla yet. I always wanted to go back to the trials that I haven’t finished. Maybe some time attack too.

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@ 14:19 – Looks like The U2 O/S might work on Yang’s wake up teleport move. Its funny though cuz here I am trying to learn Yang by watching guys like 666 and Nemo and I’m finding potential ways to beat him. Very nice Super punish on his slashes to finish him off.

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Not very useful stuff, but I was finally able to expose the super canceled Hazanshu. Someone posted a video a while back of match where they accidentally did it, and it looked super cool. I’ve never been able to reproduce it in the lab…until I watched a tutorial of linking super after hazanshu by OHT. The tutorial demonstrated a technique to get a little extra charge time by waiting a split second to press the kick button when doing a hazanshu. I applied this technique to some of my own methods and came up with a way to pull it off. It’s not very useful due to the ridiculous timing constraints, and its soo much easier to just link the super afterwards instead of canceling, but I just wanted to figure it out.

Anyways, here is a short clip in training mode doing the cancel. This is about the most consistent I was able to get with it after about a half hour of practicing it.

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lol i always link the super, i dont even bother with cancel the hazashu

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Set up that works on Ryu,Ken, and Viper. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvbajSwfxbk

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nice but old lol
anyway that setup beats ken ryu akuma sagat upper cuts
and for some reason its working mid screen idk try it out urself cause it working im doing it right now
to see if u r doing it right set it up and pick ken and if u evade his ex upper cut u did it right
f.throw dash df.hk and it will beat out the dragon
man i really want to make this damn vid cardell and i have a lot of stuff we want to show chun players some u may know some u may now