Is the air stomp a legit combo at times or just a pressure string?
Pressure string. Itās to cover IALL from wake up buttons and catch people autopiloting throw tech.
Assuming you mean headstomp into airlegs. Itās -1 on block, but the instant overhead is almost a guaranteed hit. Soā¦ yeah. Itās pretty good. Also, not everyone has a 3f jab. And not everyone knows youāre doing light airlegs which is -1 instead of medium which is +1 (you use light, cause medium goes over the opponent if your headstomp is pointblank). So they usually donāt contest it, cause they donāt want to get counterhitted.
It comboās on counterhit into a full combo though, if you execute it perfectly.
Combo on counterhit.
The worst shit ever is throwing someone, them being barely out of range, then you get thrown out of your throw animation when all they were doing was trying to tech.
The throw game in sf5 is garbage and by default makes the rest of the game garbage, fun garbage, but garbage nonetheless.
So I have a question I have ran into a wall in skill. I am triyng to improve my neutral game. I findthat a bunch of characters seem to be able to push me in to the corner. While in the corner I start to get pressued hard. I want to ex sbk but they are trying to bait it out many times they will run up to me and do nothing. Run up to my and Jump which is so ugly because if I respond to them running up and I ex sbk imeadiately I eat a full jump in combo. alternatively if they block I eat a CH combo into basically the same thing. However by trying to not use it htey opens me up to getting shimied and and getting grabbed. So iām basically stuck. I want ot be more aggressive. However Chun li with no charge loses alot of her utility. At a close range her anti-air become really gimicky and often I trade and lose or lose completely. Then theāyre is times where Iām holding down back and people try to cross me up and I ened up losing my charge. I canāt pull out IALL at a moments notice or anytime I feel like it so I canāt een consider that a option since I cana barley do it sometimes. Then that leaves her normals which people start just running away from me.
You posted your vid on the Saikyo Dojo section right? Sorry for not noticing. Iāll try and watch later. I have to help the other guy with his stuff first.
So srly? Does ChunĀ“li have troubles with anything at all? 3 frames jab, ex invencible special, stupidly good air to airs, instant ādive kickā, goldy anti airs, probably the best normals in the game and a decent fireball (itās really good tbh)
No matter who you play, you will probably have a really really bad mach up.
Any tips for a general gameplan?
One really good gameplan is to stop complaining and acting like a victim, probably.
If youāre using Ryu (I thought you said you were, but maybe Iām dumb), ensure that she does not get close. If you can do that, youāve won. If she gets close, keep calm and respect her pokes (st mk for instance). Try to score knockdowns and use them as opportunities to pressure her. Other than some very slow options, she canāt reliably get around a well-placed fireball. Keep that in mind and try to exploit it.
Your j lk beats or at least trades with most of her anti airs, especially when done early. Itās a pretty unique move that she has trouble dealing with.
Also, most times that you block or are hit by IALL, itās your fault. Just react with st mp or cr hp (or even mp srk) whenever she does it, or even whenever she leaves the ground. If you whiff a st mp because she was actually going for a normal jump (which she shouldnāt do), you still have time to srk her.
Nothing that you said works, not agains a decent player. Sheās gonna get in and sheās goona combo you down. You canāt trade with j.lk no matter what you say. Sheās just way too good, she doesnāt have any downside.
Zone her? for what? You frist have to have a health lead, and you wonāt have it couse you canāt get close to her. Fireballs donāt work, jump, IAL, cr.mk, v skill, are a few ways to avoid fireballs and close th distance you need to close.
She just needs nerfs especially in her frame data. Her light attacks should be 4 frames, not 3.
Thanks for teaching us how to beat Ryu with Chun. We needed the help. Have a great day now.
Ttyl 
Youāre right, even her bad matchups are 6-4 in her favour. She completely dominates the entire cast. That is why she wins every tournament and top 8s usually have 5-6 Chuns in them.
It seems like heās just here to complain.
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Or to troll.
No. What he said is true. Stop trying to defend your character like everything is a troll. He might or might not be, but the truth is everything heās said is reasonable, all the things heās said chun is good atā¦ She is good at.
A decent gameplan against chun is to outplay her with your fireball/footsie/dash game.
If you rely on any one of those things to much chun will get in and destroy you if you are bad upclose.
If you rely on footsies she will win cause she outpoked you. If you rely on fireballs and jump back only she will corner you or vskill over your fireballs, or cr.mp under your fireballs, if you dash to predictably she will beat them with her pokes.
You have to take advantage of ryus advantages in the matchup:
Heās more versatile than chun in certain areas. He can backdash and immediately throw a fireball, chun canāt. This makes his backdash or jump back game, better at neutral. Abuse that. Use your parry at times of small disadvantage like after chun blocks your fhp. If the chun is super button happy use sweep to beat most of her pokes.
If you can get semi close to her while she doesnāt have charge, use your crossup against her as her ability to deal with crossups is less good than her ability to deal with regular jumpins.
Once youāve got her respecting your close range hp fireballs thrown in her face, you can start doing dash throw/dash jab stuff. Use lp fireballs when near fullscreen distance so you can follow them if she neutral jumps over them so you can pressure her on the way down. Use close range hp fireballs to hit her out of her pokes and dash ins and forward walks.
After you backdash from a good range, itās a good look to use fhp to hit her if sheās an aggressive chun that is walking/dashing forward everytime she sees you move backwards.
The neutral tends to go to the better player. Chuns upclose game is slightly better than ryus, but ryu has more damage. All in all its a tough match for both characters as chun has troubles dealing with ryus all around effectiveness and ryu has problems dealing with chuns pokes and anti fireball options.
I donāt think that guys a troll. I think there are different ways to complain constructively, and this guy isnāt doing it well imo. Going into a character forums and whining isnāt productive and people are starting to respond in kind. When someone gives you tips, you donāt just sayā¦
āI donāt care. None of thatās gonna work,ā then just start rattling off all the pros (Chun) of your problem match up. Why bother? We all know how good a character Chun is. Thatās got shit to do with how you ( i.e. that poster) needs to approach the match up. She might be nerfed one day, but one day aint today yet so he needs to deal with that and move on. He seems to have a defeatist attitude already and seems very unwilling to listen to any tips people in this thread have tried to give him. Heās too bitter about Chunās strengths to get past that and do what heās gotta do.
True, but āstop complaining and acting like a victimā is pretty crap advice as well on a discussion forum. Itās pretty obvious that ONLY complaining will not get anyone anywhere which is why he didnāt just complain, he also asked questions on a discussion forum, probably while still heated from some chun beat down. Try to understand people is all Iām saying. Motherfuckers arenāt robots and do have emotions that they sometimes need to express.
Stop complaining and acting like a victim wasnāt advice anyone on this forum gave him. It was a response after he completely dismissed every single piece of match up advice people gave him. Sorry, he may still be smarting, but no oneās trying to console you or help you if thatās how youāre gonna act. People arenāt going to waste time to help you if they donāt think youāre listening or are going to be receptive to it. Maybe if he calms down people will be more receptive again like they were initially . As a matter of fact, I had actually typed up a response about some tips that I though would be helpful for him, but again, seeing his response, I just thought to myself, "Why bother?. He isnāt in the right head space to hear it now.
And maybe itās just me. but I think itās dumb to go into a character forum and complain about said characterās strengths. Most people there know the strengths of their characters. Why waste time listing/complaining about them? Iād save that stuff for general threads. I have problems with Necalli, Cammy, Ryu and Mika, but Iām sure as hell not going to their forums and complaining about them and then in the next breath asking for help. Iād just say I was a Chun main looking for some matchup advice. But thats just my opinion and itās a free country and discussion board. People can do what they want. Itās no big deal and Iām already over it. I hope he is too.
Besides, heād do better to show us some of his vids vs. Chun. I think that would tell us a lot more, as vids donāt lie while words and opinions can be a little too loose and fluid. Thereās always something you could have done better. The way he talks, youād think it was 9-10 matchup. Itās not that unwinnable.
I feel like there should never be strong characters in any game. Theres always someone who complainsā¦