Chun-Li Combos and Glitches

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Even though I lurk the Chun forums I haven’t mained her in a long time, so it was only yesterday I even bothered practicing this combo. And from my hour long training mode session I found a way to input the MK LL that works well for me.

At first, after the initial slide across the buttons, I would just move and mash MK as fast as I could, but apparently I’m a old man and fail regularly for not being fast enough. So then after slide from HK~MK~LK~MK~HK I wait half a second, then I do it again only this time I make sure to move my finger past and OFF LK so that you hit it twice and input display will look like HK~MK~LK~LK~MK~HK. That works perfect for me personally. You’ll know you’ve messed up the MK legs if you see the last set being very slow. Just my findings from a short practice session.

Also, from as close as possible I found HK LL > MK LL also works canceled off of C.MK only sometimes you’ll get 6 hits and other times 7 which makes timing the C.HK pretty hard. All things considered, doesn’t seem very useful.

Something I’ve always wondered. I don’t get why c. short combos into EX lighting legs. You can’t cancel c. short into specials afaik, and it only leaves you at +2 where as EX legs takes 4 frames to come out. This has always puzzled me, someone please explain this “glitch”.

Hey Ed, this should explain it: Interesting fact about c.LK and Legs. Basically it’s a kara renda cancel.

Is this something that just puzzled you or was there something that triggered your action to ask chun-li forums? Just curious. And much respect to you Ed, great player. Can I get some matches with you? I’d greatly appreciate it.:china:

Edit(been bad about forgetting to say stuff lately): After reading that it’s crazy to hear, felt like it was something natural. I never looked into the frame data for it because it worked already. Are there any other games/characters with kara renda cancels? I’ve never heard of it before today.

How do you guys practice Nemo’s stun combo? I use the slide method from MM:s tutorial video but I can only practice for about 5-10 minutes before me arm starts to hurt like hell :confused: Is there a way to do it without stiffening up your arm so much?

Using a stick? I use my middle finger and slide from hp to hk~mk~lk~mk~hk, mash mk, p-link hk(hk~mk). Dunno how you’re arm is stiffening up homie. Must suck.

I piano it and still get it out with a high success-rate ~90%.

hp+mk, hk~mk~lk, hk

Works really well for me

Hey I like that input, and pianoing sounds more appealing for this combo. I’ll give that a try in training mode today. Thanks Skatan.

Came across this messing around with Dime’s stomp setups (this is not a stomp combo though lol):

Focus Attack-> crumple, Lvl 2 Focus Attack, Dash, cl. HK (or HP, or cr. lp or any normal really).

It only does about 190-225 damage depending on what you use. BUT a few things:

-It gives you a little over 1/3 of the screen so you can use it to gain a lot of ground (I call it the “get the fuck off me combo” when doing it from the corner hehe).

-The last part of it is a reset so you can mixup your opponent afterward. A nice little trick is if you have 2 bars stocked, you can cancel the cl. HP or HK into a lvl 3 focus attack and you’ll still be in range to hit with it (though it really looks like you’re not in range at all)! Careful though, you don’t get any armor absorbtion properties with this and your opponent can probably counter you if he can react quick enough. It’s more of a mindgame than anything really.

-If you reset with a cr. lp or cl. lk at the end, you’ll be in range to do a crossover df+ HK.

-Canceling any of the normals into hasan shu at the end is not safe it seems.

You can ALSO do:

F.A. -> Crumple, lvl 2 F.A, Dash, EX Legs, Ultra (or EX SBK) in the corner but the damage will scale quite a bit because of the focus attacks.

Dark if you do the Lvl 2 FA x 2 to someone while they’re in the corner, you can cr. lp them and do a dash cross-up while they’re being reset.

i could never see the cancel, so i didnt believe the kara renda answer.

after perusing the frame data from the guide and trying to get cr.lk to cancel to mk legs and hk legs (it wont do it at all EVER)
i figured it out:
basically its a CHAIN, and it will only chain into itself or lk legs or ex legs or other chainable weakattacks.

if it were any type of kara cancel it would also kara into mk or hk legs,(and thus combo) which it doesnt.

-dime

Nice! :tup:

I was hoping she could do something like that. It looks like you can do it off of a close st. lp or crouching lk reset as well.

Combined with instant overhead, lightning legs setup and stomp shenanigans, she’s got tricks in the corner for days son!

…Sorry I keep editing this post as I try out more stuff. lol

I do it the exact same way, but I tense my hand and arm while doing it. I guess it’s the same as when you first learn to play the guitar, at first you’re all tense while strumming and your arm gets tired, but after a while you learn to relax. I probably just have to practice more :slight_smile:

Really? I’m just copying what I see in the arcades, most japanese guys just mash it out so I didn’t even think about trying to piano :rofl: I’ll try your way and see if it works better. Oh, btw, tjena :wgrin:

Since Dhalsim/Blanka fly so high from taking all the EX legs hits, is it possible to dash ultra if you’re a little further from the corner?

Well here’s what I was thinking. You gotta put a short pause inbetween the ex legs and ultra with the floaty characters right? If you Dash Ultra it seems like you’d just go under and whiff.

Mathematically for your situation to work, the time it takes to stall ultra with floaty characters would have to equal the time of a single dash. That way, when ultra is initiated, both times Floaty McGee would be at the same height. Sorry for the over explanation, I don’t wanna test it since I just got off the xbox but I gave you logical theory with a little arithmetic. =D

Well I just tried it, it actually whiffs because it’s too late. You’d also need a slight precharge before short short EX legs. It was tested on Dhalsim.

Yeah I had a feeling it wouldn’t work, it’s a really short wait between ex legs to ultra but dashing forward is too long of a dash for it to work out how you imagined. I would guess they hit the ground before you got to them right? If so, my math was correct and the money I’ve paid for college is going to good use.

^@ Magman. It might be possible but you’d need to have like perfect timing to do a raw dash ultra after EX Legs. I couldn’t get it to land but it looked really close. Other things I tried that did work:

EX Legs, FADC, Ultra (costs 3 bars though and you can probably cover the same distance by doing two EX Legs instead :bluu:)

EX legs, Dash Super (Yeah I know it’s training mode only)

So if the ultra can connect without an FADC the timing will be super strict.

Edit: I type too slow lol.

-Okay I tested the Lvl 2 Focus x 2, reset, dash under in the corner on every character and here are my findings:

On Honda, Zangief and Rufus:

A close st lp and a cr. lk will NOT allow you to dash under but a cr. lp WILL allow you to dash under.

On Blanka and Balrog:

A close st. lp will NOT allow you to dash under but a cr. lp and cr. lk WILL allow you to dash under.

On Abel:

A cr. lk will NOT allow you to dash under but a cr. lp and a close st. lp WILL allow you to dash under.

On Guile and Fuerte:

NONE of the resets will allow you to dash under.

On every other Character:

cr. lp, close st. lp and cr. lk will ALL allow you to dash under (Note: cr. lk and close st. lp dash under is a bit difficult to do on Bison, but only him.)

You can ALSO do just one Focus Attack, dash… wait a bit after the crumple… cr. lp (or cr lk. or close st. lp), dash under in the corner.

I did every bit of testing you did save the exception of the extra focus attack. Just FA crumple, wait 'til opponent gets to knees and hit with cr.lp, dash under and begin mix-up. When I did this I had a dummy spam throw with turbo, cr.lk beat it every time after the dash under. But when I told you guys the general idea I was hit with logic lol, just do the new stun builder combo or St.Cl. RH > ex legs etc etc. I did test with every character as well and what you posted is exactly what I came up with too. Sorry I didn’t give details before, could of saved you the trouble. Gomen Ne.:sweat: