I still have to fight with people about whether or not Nine Inch Nails are numetal. like fucking christ people. im pretty sure nin predates numetal, and they never had a single numetal riff in any song.
i read that article, I think the author is right about deftones being called numetal because of when they got popular. they were friends with korn in the early days so that probably had something to do with it. i guess they stopped talking and limp Bizkit took their place and got massively popular much to my dismay. thats about when i stopped listening to numetal, aside from orgy who was actually awesome. scifi music? yes pls.
A lot of bands get called Nu Metal just because they were around in the same era. Look at Disturbed. Maybe their first album, maybe, but past that they’re just a hard rock band.
Deftones are definitely not nu-metal but they aren’t exactly free from its influence.
I’m not surprised they are still touring. A lot of metal bands fell out of pop culture back in the 90s. They still exist and still do awesome shit. Judas Priest barely sells records but they still tour a lot. AC/DC, Poison, et. al. are the same.
those two bands never stopped touring. korn has played with linkin park for a bunch of their project revolution tours. i remember goin to see linkin park like 10 maybe more years ago and korn was playing with them.
Our hearts are broken. The shockwaves of grief and denial are still sweeping through our family as we come to grips with what has happened.
You touched so many lives, maybe even more than you realized. In the past few days, we’ve seen an outpouring of love and support, both public and private, from around the world. Talinda and the family appreciate it, and want the world to know that you were the best husband, son, and father; the family will never be whole without you.
Talking with you about the years ahead together, your excitement was infectious. Your absence leaves a void that can never be filled—a boisterous, funny, ambitious, creative, kind, generous voice in the room is missing. We’re trying to remind ourselves that the demons who took you away from us were always part of the deal. After all, it was the way you sang about those demons that made everyone fall in love with you in the first place. You fearlessly put them on display, and in doing so, brought us together and taught us to be more human. You had the biggest heart, and managed to wear it on your sleeve.
Our love for making and performing music is inextinguishable. While we don’t know what path our future may take, we know that each of our lives was made better by you. Thank you for that gift. We love you, and miss you so much.
Rest in peace to the man who was in a band that basically defined me, God rest his soul. If anyone out there knows someone or is going through the struggle in dealing with depression/anxiety my heart goes out to you, we’ve lost one of our best and it’s devastating even days after as a die hard LP fan to think about…
I do agree that clinical depression should be taken seriously, but i do understand why Brian Welch said what he said and i can’t throw any criticism towards him.4 years ago, I knew a man who left his family by committing suicide. To this day, the family is still heavily damaged… with in 3 years, not only did the mother fall into severe depression, but the family ended up homeless because she could not support her family; i think paying for the funeral was (what i think) the main starting point of them going broke (that does cost some serious cash). Up to this day, the kids show a lot of psychological effects from what they’ve experienced. I felt so bad for them that I actually wish i could call a necromancer to revive this guy just so i can f bomb the shit out of him.
The fact is, Suicide hurts the people around you more to the point that they may end up depressed and get their wholes lives fucked up because of it.
Being unsupportive of suicide (the way Brian expressed it) does not mean the person insensitive and ignorant about the reality of depression, they are just not brainwashed societal cliches whose opinion has to conform to popular societal views.
The world has been painting suicide as: *“hey you are clinically depressed, you are not in control over your actions…so make yourself happy and kill yourself, people will show love, sympathy, and all the admiration and those who say you should not have done this are ignorant insensitive assholes” *- and while that is correct to a degree it is an SJW like bullshit of “hey do what you want to yourself, any one is against that is a bad person”. And this has got to stop because it will delude others who are going through what chester did (or think they are) and just do something that will heavily harm the people around them.
If this generation want to increase the awareness and understanding of suicide the first move is to stop showing how nice it is to kill themselves, instead frankly addressing the reality of what happens to the persons family and friends afterwards. Next, lower the damn prices of medical treatment… everyone knows Clinically depressed people need medical help. It is retarded that the media is making it look like so many people are unaware that this needs medical help. Everybody knows that. The problem is how the fuck can you expect people to seek medical help properly when the price ranges from 10k-100k? “The world is not aware of it being medically needed” gtfo out of here…
Im not faulting anything that brian said because I understand. He was trying to be respectful over the fact that Chester was depressed while still saying what he did is still not cool. Saying Chester and LP have touched a ton of people is a severe understatement but the did put a global sucessful band, millions of fans, friends, a wife, and 6 kids in jeopardy.
Not gonna lie when I first heard about him I was beyond sad but as the days went on a % of other emotions started taking over some of the sadness. If I was any of the other members of the band, i’d probably at least be 25% pissed 2 days afterwards. I just wish he had gotten help instead of reaching this point.
THIS ^, This 100%
Instead of going on about the tragedy, lets focus on the medical aspects on the illness. Everyone gets blissfully ignorant when it comes to seeing clinical depression is a medical illness and the treatment of such a illness.
And it’s not just the cost, there is a stigma with the illness. Everyone wants to ether say some bull shit about it “all being in your head” or basically glorifying the act of suicide saying the depress person committing suicide is justified. That oh they are a tortured individual or some garbage.
You know how many deaths we could of prevented if we actually address the issue as it should be, a public health concern. Maybe we could reduce the cost of treatment, remove the stigma and circus that comes with suicide. And maybe then people could maybe reach for some help, or love ones that surround the person who has depression could react, take an intervention, something to care for their love one.
“I used to think that the worst thing in life was to end up alone. It’s not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel alone”. - Robin Williams