The guys mentality has obviously been seriously affected by drugs to the extent that his boundaries as to what is acceptable have become totally eroded. As someone that has used drugs myself this seems like the kind of stuff that in a few months or years when he’s sober/well/whatever term you want to use for not being high he’ll be thoroughly ashamed and embarrassed about.
Not to say it’s not fun and that most guys wouldn’t do it in the same situation, but as we all know it’s all good while it’s going on but afterward he’ll feel pretty damn shitty full of self-loathing.
Personally I think the guy’s a legend and I would do the exact same thing, in all likelihood, but my wiser instinct makes me sure that in the long run he’s seriously jeopardizing his future happiness and well being. You don’t want to be 55, alone, unable to work in your field with estranged wife and kids and most of your assets snorted up by people who don’t want to know you.
You can fuck hookers and take drugs all day for ten years, but it’ll just compound that “oh fuck I’m on a come down and I’ve blown my money on paying women to act like they dig me” feeling at the end.
he makes a lot of honest points that the societal thread erases from our psyche, which is commonly known to us as the “dangerzone”. so yes when he’s clean he will apologize for all the things he’s said, but I doubt it will be because he disagree’s with it; it will be because of the confusion and hurt he put listeners/observers through
I don’t agree with taking drugs, there’s enough chemical reactions in unbalanced foods, television, conversation and even walking down the street. I think people take drugs for a feeling of being pulled through rapid information instead of the normal pulling through random information.
I think taking drugs is fine. It should be as legal as shoving enough calories to feed you for a day 3 times a day plus snacks. We are all in charge of our own suffering and I think the the Charlie hates comes from people who are insecure about drug usage.
The answer most people give as to why they don’t do non government sanction drugs is because they like being in control. Guess what? You aren’t in control.
I know very little about what’s going on with Charlie Sheen. The only pertinent fact that I know about the man is that he was in a movie called Wraith back in the 80s that was pretty awesome, but it was due mostly to Sherilyn Fenn being in it.
Most women turn to porn because they have issues and problems. While there are a few, extremely rare, exceptions, in general porn star = has massive problems. Hat’s off to him for being one of those people with enough money and fame that women will throw themselves at him, and it’s great that he’s fucking them. But having one as a serious relationship, well that’s not good at all.
Though I’ll give him credit that he isn’t stupid enough to marry a porn star. This is one of those things where if he was just fucking them and leaving them he should get a pat on the back, but when he starts making them his family it’s time to question his sanity.
A decision doesn’t have to hurt someone for it to be stupid. He could be sitting at home slathering his dick in peanut butter and having the dog lick it off. He wouldn’t be hurting anybody, but it’s still stupid.
Nobody is fooled by CBS, and vices are fine, vices are fun. However he looks fried in those interviews. His eyes darting all over the place, skin looks a mess, he looks like a cracked out meth head after a bender. Just because you can afford something doesn’t make it good, there are times you need to tone it the fuck down. There is a difference between doing some blow here and there and going wild a couple times a month or year, and doing so much of it you start to physically deteriorate, and this applies to just about everything. Take drinking, just because you can afford 800 a bottle or higher single malt scotch, does not mean drinking a bottle of it a day is a good thing even if you can afford it.
All fine and good, till the party starts to take it’s toll on your mental and physical condition. At which point you should knock that shit off for a bit, heal your ass up properly, and then start the party up again. It doesn’t matter how rich you are, being cracked the fuck out is being cracked the fuck out.
I’d say Hef and Trump have their shit together though. I’ve never seen any of them on camera, looking like they just got off a bender and older than they actually are, ranting with a drug addled brain.
It’s like Tom Cruise. Dude was living the life, then gets on camera and you could tell just by looking and listening to him that something was misfiring in that head of his.
Yeah… prolonged heavy drug use does fuck up your brain, alter your personality, and generally fry your shit. Nobody gives a fuck that he uses mind altering substances, in general nobody gives a shit when anybody goes and get’s blasted. Its when you start looking like a crack head that people think maybe you’re doing too much.
I’m all for drugs, booze and hookers. But at some point you’ve got to tone it down, if only for a bit, so you don’t fry yourself, and he’s clearly past that point.
Did anybody here watch two and a half men? Was it any good?
I wouldn’t really consider myself a fan of Charlie, but he has been involved in some of my all time favorite movies like scary movie 3/4 and wallstreet. I especially liked his work in the Scary Movie series. Those movies are extremely underrated IMO.
You don’t need to read my wall of text. Let me summarize it for the younger readers. " It’s a LOT easier to judge others than to take a look inside to what our short falls are. Why? Because looking inside takes effort and courage "
Stones. If we were to measure everyone by your standard for good then no one would measure up. Everyone has problems and everyone does things they don’t want for money. You are passing judgment on them because you can. Because their sins are there for you to measure them up against. Once again, if I were to display all my sins in a table I wouldn’t measure up and neither would you or anyone in this thread.
Regardless of what you say. Everyone does stupid things all the time. Everyday, I do stupid things at an hourly rate. Doing stupid things doesn’t make anyone Judas. His enemies know that people are often looking to judge others to make themselves feel better. Like when you see a really obese person walking down the street we all pass judgment on them because their sins are easily evident. Just like Charlies sins are being made evident by his powerful Hollywood enemies.
I disagree. I believe american news corporation fool a lot of people.
You know what? An eye for an eye. After the tribe is done killing Charlie for what he’s done and judging him by what his enemies expose as evidence I say we call your enemies to bring your life into the lime light and then well hang and kill you and everyone else that goes under this divine light of judgment.
You tone it down. It is America, he is a free man. Or as free as the government allows at the time.
You absolutely right in that crack will fuck you up. But tell me, isn’t the result punishment enough?
Drug had an effect on him and he is paying for it. What else do you want? You want blood because America is a violent society and it seeks blood and vengance. Charlie is nothing more but a sacrificial lamb for a ridiculous puritan regimen.
Let’s stone women and children next.
Well duh, the thing here is that everyone in Hollywood that is powerful lives like this. The only Charlie is on blast is because of his enemies not because of his life style.
Stop he says. Let’s help the poor drug user he says. What should we do about them he says? You know what. I’m going to make one point and then I’ll let John Lennon take me one. It doesn’t take prolonged drug usage to change you. It takes one hit to change. It take one idea to change you. It take one moment to change you life.
It’s on so easy for everyone to point away from them now if only more people took a look inside then this would be a more enlightened world. But alas looking inside take effort and courage. Everyone has a little Charlie Sheen inside of us.
I don’t know what stick crawled up your ass where someone pointing out “dude took too much” makes them some sort of puritan. It certainly seems like you have a chip on your shoulder and are getting overly defensive about all this.
It’s not my standard at all. However, smart women who don’t have issues tend to go to school and land actual jobs. Women who have psychiatric problems, were molested, were too stupid or crazy to do anything else, tend to land up in porn or stripping.
It’s not a sin, and nobody here is talking about sin except you, so why don’t you stop being all puritanical. Fucking a woman with mental or addition issues is perfectly fine. But that’s not the sort of person you want in your life as someone you can depend on. It’s not the fact that she does porn, it’s the problems that lead her to do porn.
Why the hell are you getting all religious again? You are the only one on that, do you have some sort of odd Jesus or bible fetish dude?
As for me, I’ve done plenty of stupid shit in my life and made plenty of bad fucking decisions. I’ll fully admit they were bad and stupid, because there is no point in denying it. Oh well, you get up, dust yourself off and try to be less of an idiot the next day or the next year. That’s life, however if you keep making dumber and dumber decisions, well then you’re a dumbass.
Religion and divinity has nothing to do with this, outside of your love of talking about it.
Are you on crack? I never said I wanted anything for it. I just stated the dude is obviously cracked the fuck up. I don’t care what someone rants about with their brain half fried from a bender, that’s their issue. My stance is simple, when you reach that point slow your shit down and recover a bit. I could give a fuck less if he cleans his ass up and makes more movies, or if he ends up dead on the floor from an OD, it’s not my problem.
Again with the religious stuff out of the blue. Did a priest fuck you in the ass as a kid or something? Are you a pedo that is upset you can’t bugger little boys? Both?
What blood? He’s certainly confessed to doing illegal things but nobody is trying to prosecute him for it. And he’s hardly the first star to crash a show/project because he was too blasted to keep it afloat or created too much drama.
People eat up celeb drama, this is true all over the world. Sheen brings it, people eat it up.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Here you go making shit up again and ranting about things. Nobody said we should “help him”. Hes got a ton of money and is set for life.
Your second point is ignorant hippy bullshit. Blowing lines is fine, you will never be able to tell if your lawyer does blow off a hookers ass weekly as long as he can control his shit. Take that same lawyer and have him run through half an ounce a night and watch that fucker have problems. He won’t be able to string thoughts together properly, will get the shakes, he’ll age extremely quickly, forget things easily, and his personality will change. That’s drug related damage.
Sheen has enough cash he can turn himself into a human vegetable and he’ll still be fine. So there isn’t a reason to worry about him or what he does. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s obvious he’s vaporized a bit too many brain cells and he looks like shit. If he’s ok with that, that’s his call to make. But don’t pretend like it hasn’t had an effect.
Brother Acerbic, I’m sorry if it seems I have a chip on my shoulder and you are right. I do. I projected what I’ve interpreted as a puritan mass judging Charlie on you unfairly. I am sincerely sorry for that.
I look forward to reading your post and answering with a more level head state when I have more time. I’ve immensity enjoyed the back and forth happening in this thread. Know that although we disagree I remain respectful of you and everyone on SRK. I’m sorry if I am not always humble, I’m still trying to kill my old ego and during heated discussion is when I get most passionate.
I look forward to taking time to read your reply and answering in kind. Be well honorable Acerbic.
The more I read about Charlie the less impressed I am with his childish fantasies. He isn’t winning anything, regardless of how many times he says “epic” and “winning”. He’s just an old guy on a drug binge who has to resort to paying for sex like every other loser.
How many disgusting politicians and nerdy bankers do this? Tons. Who cares? No one.
Getting chicks is cool when you actually have the skills and personality to attract them. Anyone can blow cash on hookers and drugs. Tons of ugly losers go to Thailand and do exactly what Charlie is doing but at a fraction of the cost. At least those guys don’t act as if their escapades are extra-terrestrial achievements that no one can comprehend with a normal brain. He’s really full of shit if you listen to his interviews.
Ok, but didn’t Sheen get tested and was found clean? He also seems pretty coherent in what TV interviews I see of him. I’m sure he’s just playing it up for the cameras to bring more attention on himself, which he’ll be able to leverage later on.
Well that’s exactly the point (although I don’t understand why you would consider them disgusting or nerdy, when they are far superior to you). Anyone whose rich and powerful lives this lifestyle. Its just that they try to keep it on the down low because society frowns upon it. But who really cares what society thinks? Why do they frown on it? The common peasant is piss poor broke, can’t afford to keep his own home, let alone the drugs that he wants to do, and he can’t even get one woman, as 50% of marriages end in divorce, let alone multiple. The elite don’t live by the same rules that the common peasant does. Sorry, but money makes you better than everybody else. That’s a fact that’s been true since we first crawled out of our caves and started forming civilizations. The elite try not to rub it in our faces, but Charlie Sheen is just being vocal about it is all. So people are mad, because they’re thinking, well goddamn, I’ll never be able to live that lifestyle. As for the johns who enjoy thai hookers, please. They don’t make 1% of what the elite in America do. Also, thai hookers all have aids. No thx. Even I wouldn’t hit that. Yeah.
