Because this countries entire infrastructure (any countries economy that’s worth anything) is based on continuous expansion. Any money not used to invest or consume is not used to grow the economy, thus is a very irresponsible way to use ones money. you aren’t allowed to live within your means because its detrimental to the health of the nation and more importantly the banks.
The entire western experience is such a fucking joke at times.
yeah the economy is based on debt consumption, ie people spending money they dont have. thats just a bad way to live ones life. the only time that is unavoidable is when you get a debilitating disease or illness and you are not insured. that is why universal health care is important. but most people who have massive debt arent in that situation, they spent too much or had too many damn kids. if you make minimum wage, you dont want to spend more than minimum wage per hour.
wait, I’m confused…
How does ‘obamacare’ negatively impact his business :wtf:
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You should have NEVER shown me this.
I am going to go nuts.
Fuck whatever is happening in this video.
DO YOU SEE WHAT THAT GUY IS WEARING?
A goddamn dress suit top with designer jeans?
Didn’t douchebags move on to something different years ago?
WE WROTE IT!!!
I could’ve sworn Jebailey had enough swag to keep his NOS hoes in check. I guess pimping truly ain’t easy.
More taxes on the rich. In this particular case at the very least another tax on the home that he’s intending to sell (thats right obamacare has a tax provision in place if you ever buy and sell a home what a home has to do with universal mandated healthcare is beyond my comprehension). Its also at least increasing the cost of the benefits that he’s paying for (which is also probably taxed). Forcing him to either shift more payment back onto his employees or reduce benefit coverage to keep benefit costs the same or keep the same coverage and have him pay more out of pocket so his employees don’t feel the sting of the increase in health insurance costs.
In an indirect way, since everyone will be paying more in taxes then they’ll have less money to spend on whatever he sells (apparently timeshare vacations or something).
Wait a minute. A guy who runs his own billion dollar business might be in a situation in which he will end up very slightly less fabulously wealthy?
Well, we certainly can’t have that.
And if thousands of people are out of a job, well, them’s the breaks for living in a country where you need money to buy stuff for your own survival.
Awww poor guy. My heart really bleeds for him.
Color me heartless, but I’m finding it difficult to relate to his problem.
Kinda hard to do when an entire paycheque goes to rent, and then they still have to deal with groceries, commuting, and God help you if you smoke, or get sick.
When I made minimum wage, any illness I had needed to be cured by Nyquil. Or I was fucked.
for the record even though i’m libertarian on a lot of issues i’m not against entitlement programs in general because fact of the matter is they only represent a fraction of the overall deficit and there are bigger problems to worry about. i think people who abuse them are bad, but those dont represent the majority of people. i think if government cuts social security and military i’d be happy. social security wont be solvent at its current rate, so they should at least up the retirement age. its not really governments job to provide peoples retirements and its not realistic either. so paying income tax and seeing it go towards useless things such as social security (which this generation will never get to see), wars, bailouts for rich people, homeland security to harass people who are brown, raises for politicians, pensions for government employees (who are lazy as fuck and represent the incompetent cream of the crop) etc, pisses me off. i am against paying taxes because the government pisses away all the money. very little of it is used on anything good.
as for your actual point being poor in america is a lot easier than being poor in a third world country, so when immigrants come here, they can adapt just fine. in third world countries people just live together with their family or close friends in order to keep rent low, and they are packed like sardines into tiny shoebox apartments. the shoeboxes i stayed in in america growing up were luxurious in comparison. i do agree with your point about medical costs, because those represent an unavoidable cost. health care should be free, as should education, but you can only really pay for that if you cut out other spending. basically, i dont think its a good idea for people to depend on government to help them out, because the government doesnt care. unless you are rich/powerful. and that’s how its always been in history. even the communist revolutions for the people simply made some poor people rich, and once they had that power, they went right back on shitting on the people they were supposed to help.
shit happens in life, and you can only rely on yourself, your family if you’re lucky, and some close friends.
They need to make wealthy people play this poverty simulation game before they get their tax cuts: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/wealth-poverty/pretending-be-poor-can-change-your-perspective
(Ugggh… I can’t even make a link in this stupid forum. SRK is horrible without ads, infinitely worse with them. Going to step up my Adblock game. Fuck the police.)
Basically, they can’t make ends meet on minimum wage:
And that doesn’t cover the desire to eat, vices, and having to stand in line and fill out forms for services. but of course, this is entitlement and charity and they should be grateful for these crumbs fallen from the silken table cloths of the rich.
One function the government needs to serve, even if imperfectly, is the provision of access to all citizens to a basic standard of living. The very reason we invented government was so that everybody would have access to the resources they need to maintain their livelihoods so that chance would not favor the few–for example, one agrarian worker having a dwelling situated closer to the nearest waterway than another. This is an idea that goes all the way back to the twilight of the hunter-gather lifestyle. There is no reason why all the citizens of a society of means shouldn’t at the very least enjoy a certain minimum standard of peace and comfort.
I understand where Fishjie is coming from. The same system currently responsible for this provision also provides enormous incentives for power-hungry assholes to get involved and feather their own nests. But that’s its own problem altogether, and ought to be solved as such. The solution is not to rail against taxation in general, but how it is applied and who is applying it. One thing that is certain is that no system that could provide what we need would be possible without taxation of some sort.
It isn’t that “the government” doesn’t care. THIS government doesn’t care. In the general sense, “government” is nothing more than people systematically pooling their resources to do a job.
I have a REAL hard time sympathizing with the financial burden of smoking, if anything that kinda goes along with fishjies point of “hey live within your means if you’re poor”.
Also that poverty simulator was crappy, I got screwed by a bunch of “surprise” -money things that in the real world would have had set dates, and I could easily have saved for had I known they were coming.
edit: ah actually that’s a different poverty simulator than the one I saw, still pretty stupid, as it assumes things like you are taking college courses and such(maybe you shouldn’t have two kids if you make crap money and don’t have a college education), You are new in town and don’t have family that can watch your kids(though that’s more reasonable, I’d argue you should if possible stay near family to help take care of kids, but that’s not always possible). I’m also fairly certain that monthly budget is far less than minimum wage, unless both adults are not working, in which case child care should not be 800 bucks a month.
edit again: yeah, assuming a 25% tax rate(which is more than I pay at well over minimum wage), two people making minimum wage should be making way more than that. Also their luck of the draw example are stupid. Yeah really the only thing that kills that budget even at the only 1900 a month is the child care and college.
Actually, that DOES simulate poverty: the poor tend to seriously lack the ability to plan a budget and save for upcoming expenses (or save at ALL), do stupid shit with their money, and sabotage themselves into perpetual poverty while blaming somebody else for their problems. All their money must be spent NOW, as if it will evaporate. Day after income tax checks, money’s gone (instead of going into a savings account): gotta put the old 42-inch flatscreen into the kids’ room, and buy a 60 inch!! Forget preparing food at home, despite having spent over a hundred dollars shopping, I’ll just head out and buy my food from convenience stores every day at lunch, wasting 25-30 bucks weekly that I really could use in my pocket!! Let’s spend twice as much on ready-to-eat junk food instead of making it ourselves with more nutrition, and for less! And let’s move from apartment to apartment every 7 or so months! All that is just throwing away money…
on entitlement. i personally believe that no one is entitled to ANYTHING ever. the reason government was created, as i see it, is because a group of people thought others should be entitled to certain things.
it’s partly why i want some sort of zombie apocalypse to happen just so i can shit on people who wouldnt know west from east without googling it on their iphone (semi joking)
im outi
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The reason government was created was to stop situations like the current government from happening–i.e. the biggest gang taking over and hoarding all the resources.
I saved 200 dollars. I am not sure how.