Can somebody teach me how to play?

Classic Fighting Games Capcom VS SNK 2
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I suck at CVS2, but I play team Daigo too (most of the time nowadays), so I’ll try to help.

With Ken vs Yamazaki, use Ken’s max range neutral standing roundhouse a lot. At that same distance, mix it up with RC short funky kicks. Stay right outside of Yamazaki’s own standing roundhouse (this is really hard, I know :mad: ) and try to get him to jump. If he’s in C-Groove, use a fierce DP as anti-air. If he’s in K, use a jab DP which should be safe even if JD’d. If it is JD’d, you can try walking under him (if he’s high enough) to the other side, then short, short xx super when he lands. Other than that, roll through those long range serpent slashes (the ones that hit at your feet and your face…sorry, I don’t play Yama) and use Ken’s quick dash to your advantage. Try dashing right next to him, then throwing Yamazaki. If he jabs you or pokes with standing roundhouse on reaction to your dash, try dashing and busting a fierce DP. It works more often than it should. Use RC strong/fierce fireballs from that spot right outside Yamazaki’s roundhouse. If he starts reflecting them, get ready to roll through and short, short xx super. :smiley:

Here’s a cool crossup I found with Ryu and Ken a long time ago: after a fierce throw from midscreen, superjump toward your opponent’s body as soon as they hit the ground. At the peak of the jump, do a roundhouse hurricane kick. You should land directly behind them as soon as they rise, then do short, short xx super if they block incorrectly. You can mix it up by doing a short hurricane kick instead, and landing right in front of them. Of course, delayed get-up and safe fall might fuck this shit up, haha.

With C-Ken, mix up your anti-airs with an occasional air-to-air superjump roundhouse and also his airthrow. Airthrows work well against K/P-Groovers that like to bait and JD/parry anti-airs.

Hope this helped!

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easiest way to win is pick blanka and sagat and keep doing low fierce. very effective vs everybody.

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Ok, what I do with ken is I try to play a good ground game with him, because he has alot to work with. Just try poking with lots of C.jabs and C.Lks to hadoukens. Or Crouching middle kicks to fireballs work good too. Often this will bait people into attacks after the hadouken so then do a L.p Shouryuken. Even if you predict wrong it’s still farely safe so you can either do another DP, Block or go back to more footsies. Against some of the taller characters like Sagat, you can do alot of S.jabs© then throw. If your playing a turtle then they arent gonna want to turtle as much if they keep getting tossed.

Against annoying AA characters like Hibiki, Blanka etc. It’s best to try to close the gap slowly and if they keep getting away then try to get them to come to you by using projectiles. If they’re playing P or K then throw a slow projectile then rush in. Alot of the time if they’re being rushed they wont bother to Parry or JD and they’ll go on the offense which is what you want against those kind of players. Keep in mind that a turtles game revolves around keeping the enemy away so just keep throwing those projectile and there bound to come to you. If they’re all the way on the other side of the screen then they wont be able to get you fast enough to attack. So throwing projectiles is pretty safe too. If there fairly close just play footsies and throw, turtles often arent good at real combat so you’ll own them when they’re close. Then naturally there gonna want to go back to turtling so just keep owning them wherever they are on the field. Also it’s good to jump towards them while staying away. This will help close the gap really fast. They can only back up for so long before getting cornered. Also if you’re winning then a turtle will start to become really impatient which is really good for you.

I hope that I was able to help.

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hey KCXJ dont listen to this guy. i’ll tell you what makes you better unlike all of these forum people. they all think talking about the game makes you better. try playing nestor and me more. listening to all these forum fags is a good way to get confused and think youre getting better but youre not. best way is to play people who know what theyre doing. just dont listen to them because most people are like you and they know how to talk and repeat other people but when they have to play they never know what to do.

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I need match vids of certain (Ken, Sagat, Yamazaki) players and I need em fast!!!

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i don’t know any combos or gimmicks and i win tournaments

less you know better you do

for furthur examples see julian robinson

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Kcxj: All I can say is conditioning your opponent. For further information contact Cheese_Master… the most technical player in MI.

By the way I’ve got some footage from casual play @ Evo, Ill c what I can do to get it up… BTC2 perhaps?

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Hey Obot, I live near Detroit. Do you ever go to Pinball Pete’s?

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IM me, JeffHizzle. I’ll help you out.

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STFU. Cant you see that Kcxj is trying to find some good advice. Not basic scrub advice. Your idea of good is the basic jump and roll. Cant you see he’s already playing like that and he’s trying to advice from people who dont play like you. I know I havent played you, but OMG!!! I’m just trying to give him some good advice and you’re trying to mess him up by trying to get him to play like a scrub. I’m not a “forum fag” u are. If i’m such a forum fag how come your the one thats trying to fuck up this thread just like you fucked up the worst character thread. When anybody reads this post then reply about what you think about scrubs like LZJ who hate advanced players just because they cant go beyond the basic scrub tactics. And from what you can tell who’s better at the game. I’m not sounding cocky or anything, but I know for a fact I’ll own you. All I need is RC to own you, seeing as you dont even know what it is so how are you gonna know how to play against it. I really hope your at EVO next year. So i can show you what I do to people who just jump and roll. I’m not trying to sound cocky, but I have a right to defend myself if the person obviosly doesnt know shit.

Real talk!!! :smiley:

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Haha, that’s so awesome it deserves a quote.

In case anybody else is wondering, that LZJ guy may be a scrub, but he’s right about me talking a lot but not knowing what to do in a real match. I kept trying to low short/throw mixup a RAGED K-Zangief after every knockdown today. Now that I think about it, WTF was I doing?? I should definately have known better than that. I was a moron and ate the wake-up level 3 every time when I should of…

-ran out his meter
-poked him safely outside of his super throw range
-or used a meaty fireball

I don’t know why I keep jumping when I’m already in and have an advantage going as well (after a d.LP with Ken). It’s not safe. I got hit by the punch lariat every time. I noticed that’s definately one of the patterns/bad habits I need to break out of.

I’m not going to post so much anymore (I haven’t been able to advance my game to the next skill level for a long time now and nobody cared to make the Yamazaki stickies I was asking for in the other thread). I’m just playing from now on.

If anybody here lives in the CT, NY, or MA area, send me a PM if you ever want to play. Console prefered. The Break and CF are horrible arcades. Poor matainence, bad customer service, only one CvS2 machine, and all games are a rip off at 50 cents. Plus everything is dirty and smells like dead fish too. After playing at FFA in Socal, I’ve realized what a quality aracade is SUPPOSE to be like. To put it bluntly, compared to the Cali arcades, everything here on the EC just plain sucks. So yeah, console prefered if anybody wants to play.

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yeah I know that all the stuff that I posted doesnt work ALL the time, but you have to play farely safe too. Zangief is acually one of the characters that gives me trouble too. I have to play differenly against Zangief or any other character thats a real threat to get close to. Try to keep them away (not turtle). Also when Zangief gets close try to RC a fireball or something. L.p D.p shouldnt be used THAT much. It’s good against characters that dont have anything like Zangief’s lariat. It’s still farely safe though. Maybe not as safe if it becomes too predictable though. I noticed that it works pretty good on Guile, Blanka and Cammy. They can still counter it with certain moves, but if it’s kept unpredictable it’s pretty good. Against Zangief I rely ALOT on RC. keep in mind that nothings perfect in CvS2.My advice isnt bad just because it works differently against certain characters or people.

The best advice I could give is to just play the game. I dont mean that like LZ(LoZer)J(Jokeassscrub) I’m just saying play the game using combos, RC, mixups and pressure. Look with your own eyes at the battle that your in at the moment and play how you feel will help you win. When I play,if it’s against a slow character I rush, If it’s a character thats a threat to get closed to (Zangief) then I play it safer,characters that own the air shouldbe played on the ground most of the time and characters that own the ground should be kept away. It’s hard to explain in a post. Just play. Not Basic like LZJ wants you to be, but use the advanced tactics and combos you know with whatever feels right. :slight_smile:

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CVS2 is a quarter at the break and the poor management gives away hundreds of dollars a week to the players, but yea it’s dirty =)

Didn’t LZJ aka Josh Wong (who still can’t beat me) get 9th at Evo and was captain of EC CVS2 Team B how well did you place snakedizzle206

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truth is everybody on this board is all technical and doesnt know shit. when it comes down to it, they cant even get around fireball traps. you and your crew of know it all scrubs couldnt even beat somebody would JDs and throws all day. theres no point in giving advice when you cant play. it throws people off, it makes you look like an ass, and it puts you in a place where its hard to get better. try playing the game and getting good before you post advice. buktooth is a nice guy for helping you all with “tricks of the day” and other shit but if you cant play dont take his advice yet. its to make good players better. not turn scrubs into good players. if you wanna be good you have to have the mindset of rsigley, julian robinson or bryheem keyes. they cant do any combos, they know nothing about frame data, and their heads would explode the moment they finished a custom combo. but all 3 of them could beat 90% of the people on this board who give out advice. thats my advice to KCXJ.

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So true. There is too much theory fighter going on in these forums.

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true that, frames mean nothing if you understand the game, what is safe, what can be linked, etc. It can help, yes, it doesn’t make the game though. I’m not saying these boards fkn suck or shit, coz they don’t, and the Strategy Zone is like my second home, but I do see most people talking ABOUT eachother then WITH eachother, and I fkn hate it to browse through spam and shit, instead of you guys traveling to eachother to play some grudge match or shit, you guys just talk about how you would beat him up by just RCing which is fkn stupid snakedizzle, I just laughed everytime you said that, and I still will, I just kept myself out of the discussion

Anyway, it’s not wrong to post on these boards solely technical stuff, because you can’t post other stuff, I remember the topic ‘beating randomness with randomness’ or something and there was something found by accident, not something wow, but you could win a match out of the 100 you play with it, and everybody bashes it, because they will just say Sakura will RC your ass which would be a fkn random RC then, which has scrub written all over it etc. etc… You can’t post shit here which you THINK might work, coz they will bash it anyway with some stupid little comment like “OMG SAGAT WILL C.FIERCE THAT SHIT” or bullshit like that, but that’s the way it is, and it will never be different, I just love buktooth for still being here, caliagent, and others who still have the patience for posting here, because they could have been in the arcades playing, while we were still talking about what to do when you block a Blanka Ball. I remember when Gunter went away, it fkn sucked, and the people around here even sucked more, they were riding his nuts with sentences like POST THE FRAMEDATA PLZ and yet they fkn disrespected him, fuck that shit, I think it’s OK he left, he has the right to, I would have even left sooner with all this rubbish that call themselves ‘pro cvs2 players’ or bullshit like that.

Anyway, kcxj, I suggest you don’t try to THINK when playing, I think you’re thinking too much about stuff, just put your mind on 0 and just play, I think you overanalyze too much, which isn’t a bad thing, but don’t do it while playing. If your opponent does something new, don’t over-analyze, just try to work around it with the tools you have, and I know for sure that you can do it, you know what potential your team has, you’re a smart man kcxj.

And about the Zangief part, well, I dont know if you played alot of Zangief/Raidens, but that shit will come, I never play against grapplers and I get my ass handed everytime I play the computer X_x Fkn Benimaru with his super.

Anyway, that’s just playing and incorporating it in your gameplay that you should jump or something…

And if you’re so worried about fireball traps and stuff… Ever thought about going K/P/S or something? Or perhaps even N, just small jump over it, stuff like that…

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9th at evo…psh. scrub. i beat josh before…

once…
…in casuals…

…out of 15 tries…:cool:

and LZJ isn’t full of shit, he posts exactly how he plays. he does a lot safe pokes, he “keeps his character alive”. if you ever seen me play. i have tons of parlor tricks, full of setups…i will attempt them all. but when it comes down to the real match, my basics do not save my ass, all you really have to do is watch my random play style and look for openings, land the damage, and keep your basics strong. one of the main things i learned from evo, is basics are important.

KCXJ:i wanted to play against you at evo, but i never got to meet you.

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Fireball traps aren’t scrubby or anything so if done right of course they’re gonna give you trouble. The whole point is to have a shield to folow and it puts them in blockstun and chips life and guard meter, but of course you know all this.

If you know there’s an opening between the fb hit and their poke, just dp or super (you have stored meter right?). If there’s no real opening like what happens with Guile a lot, just AC the fb and hit their poke. I also haven’t really got to the next level, but does it really matter anyway? Even the top players and fans of the game know it’s broken.

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Every so often… mostly when they have tourneys.

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Hey Guard Crush,
Do you play @ Pete’s often? I’m not that good in the game, but we should play sometime. Maybe we have played before, who knows…