Here’s hoping…
I think some people only play 3s because it’s the last SF game and because it looks pretty anyway. SF4 may fix all that.
that’s gotta be something to not to be missed,
I personally think the cast of 3s is better than SF2’s
but then again I don’t really play either one.
plan on playing 4 though
I just don’t like the complete rushdown aspect of Third Strike.
3s rushdown!?
Isn’t 3S just Yun actually staying away and building meter?
Eh, I think 3S will get drained out. Most of the reason it’s popular now is that it’s been the popular game for a while; that is, almost everyone who’s come to the 2D fighting game scene in the past half decade has come in playing either GG or 3S and mostly 3S, whether because that’s the game everyone was playing at the time, they saw someone do something cool-looking in it, or it was available for online play. Well, that won’t be the case now, people will come into the scene playing SF4 and also any of HDR, TvC, Blazblue, or whatever, very rarely will someone entering the community next year come in because of 3S. Very rarely will they see something cool enough to bring them into 3S because there just won’t be as much 3S action going, they’ll see something cool in one of those other games instead, and people without big scenes in their area will pick up one of the newer games online. Basically, Third Strike’s momentum will die pretty soon, and that’s the main thing that keeps most fighting games going.
I’m sure there’ll be plenty of people who will still prefer 3S, just as there are people who still prefer ST or Marvel2 or A3. But I don’t expect most 3S players to have the same kind of crazy affinity for the game that ST or Marvel players have, I think a lot of them will realize that they’ve been playing a weaker game, but they just haven’t had any reason to pick up anything else to find that out until now. It’s also the case that very few of the movers and shakers in the scene are super enamored with 3S like they are with ST and MvC2, which will mean fewer scheduled tournaments now that the public demand for them will be less. ST and Marvel always have tournaments going even if they don’t get big numbers because, well, the people running the tournaments like ST and Marvel; that won’t be the case for 3S.
I don’t think 3S will die, but I do think it’ll become the new Alpha 3.
As for whether ST will die, maybe, but only if HDR kills it. One SF2 game or another will always be played.
It’s weird, now that Thrid Strike isn’t the newest street fighter… I think I like it now.
I don’t get why people hate 3rd strike so much.
It’s just another game that people play.
I mean really there are alot worse games that are still played in tournaments
It’s because it’s so hype but it’s such a poorly made game.
Aesthetically it’s gorgeous but the gameplay is horridly unbalanced, moreso than most popular games in the scene.
And yes, we know MvC2 is still played in tournaments.
Well, I’m not gonna stop playing 3s just because there is a new game. I’ll pick up SFIV of course, but I’m not gonna drop 3s just because its “old” now. I still have a bunch of fun every time I play it
I have…and none of them are as fun or interesting to me as 3S. 3S just clicks with me. The only other 2d fighting game that I come close to having as much fun playing is Guilty Gear and pretty much everyone else that I regularly play games with either just doesn’t play it or can’t stand it.
I really like playing ST bu there’s no way that I have as much fun playing it as I do 3S. It’s too structured of a game for me. I like the free feeling I get when I play a good game of 3S. Even if it is “being the better guesser” you just get that feeling when you really get into it that you can do whatever the fuck you want and there’s always a way out of something. Yet…you get people that consistantly win in it too so it’s not completely out of line either.
From there…I also really like VF but again…it’s just not as interesting to me as 3S. I haven’t played Tekken in years and don’t have a PS3 and I’ve kinda lost interest in Tekken after Tekken 5. VF seems fresher to me but I just haven’t really found anyone to seriously play it with other than my bro. Even if I seriously got into the game…I know I still would never like it as much as I do 3S. I probably won’t ever find a fighting game that I like as much as 3S. The main issue being that I like EVERYTHING about 3S. The music, the graphics the way it plays…the game literally clicked with me 8 years ago and still has today.
I only recently started driving so I’ll start getting out more to play different games to see what I can learn from them. At heart I think we all just like SF in some form and SFIV will hopefully get us playing something else more often. A couple of my friends are big SNK fans and I like KOF and all that shit too. Just…definitely not as much as 3S either.
It’s good to find a game that everyone can just agree to wanna play and 3S has always been that game for my crew. Even if they were to stop playing it all together…I know we’d still be playing the shit out of IV and I would still find ways to meet to find people to play 3S. Just like the Marvel and CVS2 players do.
Funny how SFIII isn’t in the title yet, 3s has become the center of attention in the thread :lol: good to see some classic passionate fiery hate
3S isn’t in the title but it’s all over the original poster’s post. I think he was smart not to put 3S in the title cuz any topic with 3S in the title usually goes to shit real quick. Always turns into some war of the SF’s where the ST heads can’t wait to bash and the 3S people are ready to fight back. Plus who cares bout those other games.
3s brings the controversy.
That’s because it’s a discussion about Street Fighter games, and people have to keep making excuses for playing a non-SF like 3S. 
I agree with Ultra David. Assuming that SFIV doesn’t end up sucking, I can see SFIV replacing 3S and 3S becoming the new SFA3 (i.e. 3S will be returned to the status it was before we played out everything else and we went through a Capcom fighting drought). I think it’s very unlikely that SFIV will replace SF2, mainly because the major tournament organizers are OG and they refuse to let ST die.
K…another long ass post from me.
Yeah there’s no way ST will die. It’s like telling everyone not to play the old Nintendo Mario games anymore. It’s not gonna happen. It’s the reason SF is where it is today and it’s not going anywhere. HD Remix will obviously get new people into the older series even if the game so far isn’t a whole lot like the original game other than the fundamentals. Which in effect will help to attract newer players since it doesn’t look quite as much like a 15 year old game.
I’m on a wait and see approach with 3S. It depends on the way the scene is. If you think about Marvel for a sec…there’s so many things going against Marvel. There’s no real solid way to play it on your computer yet (especially not online), Dreamcasts are very unstable, the game has such a steep learning curve at this point that there’s no way a newer fighting gamer will think twice about getting into it…it’s got a lot of things going against it as far as getting newer people into the game or even keep the people who play it still playing it.
As far as 3S goes…3S has a very solid PS2 port. That plus the new slim PS2 makes it real easy to virtually carry around the game and create 3S tourneys or gatherings. Well, it’s either that or 3S players simply aren’t as picky as ST players yet. On top of that you can play it basically on any media now. You can get an arcade perfect version of the game on your computer for free. So now anyone has access to the game. Plus there’s a lot of people that still play it and overall the game is not as intimidating to learn to play as some other fighting games.
If 3S is going to be A3 status…it won’t be for a while and there’s many factors that’ll keep it from being the game that not too many people wanna play anymore. It’s by far the easiest game to create tourneys for minus not being able to use HD setups for the game. Long as people still are interested in the game and newer interest in the game arises from other players…it’ll be around. Maybe it’ll just be around like Marvel is around…but it’ll be around. It definitely will be at Evo for the next 3 years at least. Especially if Marvel has been at Evo that long.
SBO kinda likes to pick up the newest games and is pretty random about what games it includes but I can definitely see 3S there for a few more years at least as well. The players that are in the 3S scene are very well known and are among some of the most popular fighting game players in the world. Like you can’t think of a 3S character without thinking of some of the Japanese players that make them who they are. If there’s anywhere where the game has hit a “prestigious” status…it’s Japan. With or without SBO the game will still be kickin over there.
Overall…3S is just too unique of a game and has had too much of a history to go down the drain anytime soon. I mean what other SF game or fighting game in general is anything like it? The main reason other fighting game heads bash it in the first place is because it isn’t enough like SF. Well…in effect that’s the same reason it’ll be around. It’s different and there’s people that like the difference. It’s still a SF game at heart though and people will always like SF.
Really if 3S was going to run out of steam, you’d think it would have done so by now. That if it was so lacking substance, it would have gotten really popular, and then when people realized it was so lacking, it would have died just as quickly.
It all comes down to preference, balance, as much as people appreciate it when it’s there, does not trump gameplay and never has. Marvel vs Capcom 2, being the major offender, is a game where the gameplay drew people in, not the balance.
I mean there are still a ton of people who play ST, but they are dwarfed by the number of people playing 3S. How many years until what is considered a fad, is no longer considered one?
I think new people will find 3S not because it’s the greatest game ever, but it’s probably the most accessible fighter to newcomers. You play people who have been playing for ten years in ST and you get destroyed while not even knowing what your doing, the moves are hard to input, etc. It’s not very friendly to new people. Guilty Gear has a billion subsystems, and the only other games that tend to appeal are the flashier 3D fighters.
I think 3S has struck a chord with gamers, as much as people seem to hate that.
I think you’d have to look at the weaker games getting knocked off. This may mean bad things for Capcom Vs SNK 2.
Yeah…CVS2 is definitely one of those games that is just dying. You know a Capcom game is dying when more people on a forum talk about ST more than they do about the other Capcom game. It’s another Capcom fighting game with a really steep learning curve and sprites from like a bajillion years ago. There’s nothing about it these days that really makes it seem to stand out over the other fighting games other than it being known for being a technical fighting game. Which it is…but that isn’t always enough to keep many people seriously playing a game. It’s gotta have more to it than just being a smart game.
I mean…most of the CVS2 heads don’t even get into the arguments on the forums. They just play CVS2 and talk amongst themselves it seems more of the time. It’s the battered ST players and the passionate 3S players that are always looking to duke it out and in effect that shows a big role in which games people are still looking to play seriously. ST players talkin bout how the new kids don’t know what a SF game really is and the 3S people are trying to convice the ST heads that smokin weed should be legal. Since that is in effect a big part in becoming better at 3S.
There’s no way CVS2 will ever see another year at Evo as an official game unless Evo decides to up the amount of tourney games. If they are sticking to this 6 game schedule thing…CVS2 is so off the list. It’s just not the game that everyone’s playing anymore and there’s nothing about it that really seems to click with people other than the most hardcore fighting gamers or people who just like to smash buttons with a bunch of Capcom’s and SNK’s greats. The fact that it hasn’t seen the light of day at SBO in the past 5 years doesn’t help. A fighting game can live without SBO but it definitely helps.
Here’s the problem, though: starting next year, no one who’s new to the SF scene will start up by playing 3S. And Overworld, like I said in my last post, in my opinion this is the biggest reason 3S is so popular now: it’s going on momentum. It started to become the most popular fighter 5-6 years ago, and since then no new SF game has come along as a reasonable replacement for it (AE and CFJ definitely weren’t up to the challenge). For the last many years, the only SF game with a good, easily accessible port that was available for online play was 3S, so virtually everyone coming into the SF scene had to come through it. In my opinion 3S isn’t so much a fad as it is the product of an extremely favorable situation.
Well, all that’s gonna change now. SF4 will be even more easily accessible than 3S, have better netplay, and bring in more people because of its name and media coverage. HDR will be a very cheap new game available as a download on PS3/360 with excellent netcode with a built-in fanbase of people who played on the SNES a million years ago and want to revisit that (and it’ll have easier and more consistent inputs than ST, by the way). TvC, if it makes a US release, will certainly also be online and will bring in a lot of people with its interesting graphics and Marvel-like play. And I’m sure Blazblue will pick up some of the new gamers too, like GG before it. Basically, people who are new to the scene will come in completely bypassing 3S; very few people will have cause to know about a game that’s not for sale for any of the current-generation systems, let alone pick it up so strongly that they’ll decide to come into the competitive scene. In my opinion, the current generation of 3S players will be its last.
But yeah, I don’t think that generation will totally leave. I think a lot of them will, I think they’ll find better gameplay in one of the new games or just leave the scene altogether as people sometimes do, but of course there will be those people who remain. Like you say, DJ, it has a very unique system that you can’t find anywhere else, and for that reason some people will stick with it. But A3 had a very unique system as well, there’s no other game quite like it, and yet look where it is today.
By the way, I don’t think CvS2 will fare too well, either.