Needs a 1 frame command throw.
-She now has a 2 frame jab GOOD!!!
-Her EX seismo hits the whole screen YAY FINALYL!!!
-Strong TK does 800 stun ID WANT 1000 but w/e
-Her BK is now unblockable IT IS ALREADY KINDA LIKE THAT
-She can FFFF now. I ALREADY CAN DO THIS!!! hahahaha
But seriously, are people dissapointed that she is staying exactly the same? I can only see this as a positive thing however I look at it to be frank.
yea just a bit…i mean even if she got nerfed she would be different.
now we have nothing new to try…
Even if it was just some dumb gimmick it would’ve been fun to have something new to experiment with
like I’ve been saying for the past year
Give her the damn captain fire
No more screwing around. It’s not that I hope that isn’t she’s better, Flash mentioned some things that i really hadn’t paid much attention to but i see it now, I’m gonna step up, take the beatdowns and get better. She’s an amazing character to me and I don’t mind doing what it takes to bring that sh**it out. No more complaining and no more “I want this or that”, i accept what’s there and i’ll see you folks in AE.
P.S. @Jewelman you play an annoying honda, it was good stuff up until the end.
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Even after Jayce said that everything’s the same, I still feel like hk’s faster. 
Lol his honda was pretty stick throw worthy, glad i wasnt up against him
You feel like hk is faster because you wish it was faster, your mind is just playing tricks on you lol.
I hate the placebo effect so goddamn much, you’d be watching a AE vid and you keep thinking things have changed.
‘‘DID VIPER JUST DO A BK A LITTLE LOWER THAN USUAL, I THINK SHE DID I SWEAR TO GOD’’
i remember people were raving about her cr.mp when ssf4 was released
not falling for that shit again
^
LOL
I thought it actually got buffed though, I dunno.
At any rate, I’ve quit Viper. Nothing new to offer, nerfs or no nerfs, and I’m so out of practice with her it’s not even funny. I can’t be bothered anymore. In fact, I’m starting to get sick of the entire game now. Maybe Juri will make things fun.
You know I’m glad someone else can do something besides complain… Viper has the tools available to win any match… Bad or not… Even if its hard its possible. There isn’t a single match up that isn’t winnable by some means. You just have to be willing to work hard…
Also, I keep seeing people say that her cfoward needs to be fixed as if it were broken or something. She doesent have auto footsies like other characters and anyone who thinks it needs to be extended needs to re evaluate their game. Stop complaining and learn to play footsies. If your getting stuffed its because you don’t know your spacing for the match up and how to deal with long pokes. Vipers normals don’t need to be changed we just need to work harder. That’s the appeal to playing her anyways. I’m not the best viper by far. But even I can see this.
Yeah, we’re all just lazy here, not working hard enough during out match ups lol.
Scrubs have all the optimism in the world. I guess it’s because they have never been formally introduced to air tight players who know the game, specifically air tight Rogs and Honda’s. Nothing like being completely shut out and shut down to take the optimism out of your eyes and make you realize how f’d some matches are.
Oh, and enjoy working extra hard only to drop something critical because you’re playing the most technical character and its 90% likely to happen, no matter how trained you think you are. It’s just the nature of the character.
@ Ryuga
Yeah this game is done for me. Same thing happened last year, EVO finished and then announcements about SSF4 were around so I just dropped Vanilla and got caught up on some of my games in the backlog. Already enjoying some GT5 while I wait on MVC3 and whenever the fuck AE rolls itself out.
Meh…I plan on keeping Viper but I’m definitely learning the twins. Yun beats Blanka and Honda so I’ll use them for those retarded match ups too bad they both lose to Gief and Rog.
Anyone else read the Viper notes for MVC3 the most important thing to note was that BK’s are overhead and they are feintable… I’ll quote myself on what I was thinking for Viper in SF4.
Guess what the fuck I’m doing in MVC3.
So… Remmeber when Daigo said that viper was top tiers, on 3 seperate occasions?
Well heres more from others
KSK: Which match up do you hate the most?
Tokido: ?Definitely C. Viper. I?ve always hated her. She has [a good knockdown game?], Akuma?s setups aren?t as effective against her, and it?s hard to runaway.
KSK: So, who is going to be top tier, ability-wise.
Mago: Yun, Fei Long, Viper, Chun, and Boxer.
Mago: There?s a lot of console players. I see a lot of gamer tags I used to see online. Although most of them are Viper players. Goes to show how broken she is.
(everyone laughs)
KSK: Wow you really hate Viper (laughs).
Damn, i guess vipers are THAT good??? That must explain why we win so much…
Yes, I just finished reading the article and I’m really surprised that they put Viper on such a high pedestal. They wanted the damage on U1 nerfed as well. Not surprised about that I landed some Ultra setups on Jwong and he was surprised at the damage output.
Maybe Japanese Vipers are just a cut above or the bad match ups for her don’t seem to be played as much in Japan. My mind is boggled at how all the pro players in Japan consider Viper top tier. We all know her capabilities but her weaknesses really become apparent.
They buffed the recovery on whiff, that’s all.
Believe me it’s not just optimism that’s fueling me. For example, when it comes to math or physics, if i could bear branded a complete nerd, I can handle it on a competitive level. And not just be one of those “I’ve got my notebook to look it up” competitors, I’m be the equivalent of an exceptional Marvel 2 or Guilty Gear player when it comes to knowledge execution and confidence. Why? Because I know a lot of the ins and outs of math, I understand a great deal of the situations in physics, I have a ton of experience with both and i’m truly confident in those arenas.
When it comes to fighting games i don’t have the same level of comprehension, execution or confidence. So by most unbiased views, I’d be considered a bad player. I have a character that intrigues and infuriates me simultaneously, I got almost all the hardware i need to get me on the right track, there’s information available to me along with potential, attention to detail and determination. I’ve fought people who were good enough to not only expose Viper’s weaknesses but my own as a player, it’s these people that not only drive me up the walls but also force me to want to become better.
No. those Japanese players are trolling us. It is a conspiracy.
Viper sucks kekeke