Where do you get this premeditated intent to kill jive after he displayed the knife and got off the bus early?
BTW, I never said anyone here was defending the bully. Some of you are giving him some leeway as if hitting him the back of the head (a potentially fatal blow) didn’t deserve 1 or a hundred stabs, but not outright defending him. Me personally don’t know why he stopped at 12 stabs.
@Radiant: this jackass literally just accused you of twisting his words right before twisting yours, thinks carrying a knife equals intent to kill and desire to use it, and thinks he’s on the right side of ad ignoratum. I strongly recommend just ignoring him, for the sake of your blood pressure/sanity.
I’m busting out a Dr. B quote.
Dr. B would have swooped down, stopped the fight before it happened, and reprogrammed the bullies’ minds, making them worthwhile human beings. Unfortunately Dr. B was busy fighting off encroaching parallel dimension RX-7B, which would have erased all existence. Dr. B expresses his condolences.
and you think it’s acceptable that you had to that to feel safe? Not everyone has the time/money/physical ability/will to pick up some form of combat to protect themselves. Why allow knives and guns to be legal at all if not for this very situation, where someone who can’t protect themselves physically and can’t get the help they need to protect themselves.
Not everyone is fast enough to run away, I would certainly never base my ability to survive/avoid being beaten based on my land speed. I assume the testimony was from the school bus full of kids that it happened right next to or the people who got off the bus to watch(or help or whatever they were going to do).
You’re also from Brooklyn so then you should know what I’m talking about.
I don’t care if you use the term bully, thug, terrorist, etc, they’re all a cancer to humanity and if the parents, police, school, government, etc, aren’t going to deal with it then the victims need to stand up for themselves and defend themselves.
If you’re attacked with deadly force then defend with deadly force if you can’t escape (if no one else can help you). Can’t believe I have to teach common sense on a gaming forum…
You must be trolling brah. Why would I post from “a lack of experience”, when I just posted my own experience with bullies. It wasn’t hard to read. I got bullied, jumped, and beat up. I learned how to fight and defend myself. I fought back. I got respect from it and never messed with again. I’m sorry your experiences weren’t as awesome as mine, guess I was lucky to not be killed in all of that. It’s not a Karate Kid story, but a story from experience nonetheless.
This was what? 1997? Shoot to 2012, people are still being builled, nothing has changed. Only now, the tormented don’t know how to fight, and instead willing to stab or shoot bullies.
Of course I feel it’s acceptable. I wasn’t going to go through my middle school life getting picked on by anybody. And it didn’t cost me anything to learn how to box, only some classes at the Y and my old man teaching me when he had free time.
I see where you’re coming from however. You can say I’m old fashioned, I guess. I simply see some weapon as a last resort to conflict.
That’s weird. I think you’re getting confused. We’re talking about the same subject right? I never said: “thinks carrying a knife equals intent to kill and desire to use it.” But in this situation that IS a very high possibility and probably true. In this situation, not any random situation. Some guy walking around with a knife in the farm doesn’t mean anything. We’re talking this situation, nothing else. Who twisting words around again? Oh yeah, you just did.
If anything, I’d like to see the bully’s family get sued further, for their shitty kid’s behavior creating a situation where a victim now has to carry the weight of someone’s death on his shoulders for the rest of his life.
As for punishing bullying: a) this particular bully’s death wasn’t a “death penalty,” it was death caused by self-defense, and therefore the bully’s own damn fault. 2) A bullying “death penalty” isn’t needed. What’s needed is for teachers and parents to stop treating bullying as “part of growing up” or “part of being in school,” pressing charges against bullies, and penalizing bullies – and the people who enable it – in meaningful ways. Yes, I feel if, say, a teacher ignores a victim’s plea that the victim is being bullied, that teacher should be guilty of a crime.
everybody claiming the kid needed to be repremanded never TRULY dealt with bullying. When you have a school that doesn’t give a shit, parents that can’t help you, and nobody to turn to, and some dick fuck feels like making every one of your days hell, and attacks you all the time, tough shit. It sucks the kid killed another kid, but one day bullies will learn that if you pick on that ONE crazy fucker, he will snap and columbine your ass.
I wish I had the balls to kill some of the fucks I dealt with in high school to death, no lie. I’d fuck em up other ways, and i did have to stab a fucker once. What else do you do when 6 people feel like jumping you daily because one of them is dating your ex. Stab that fucker in the tummy, and watch his buddies back off as you wipe their pals blood off on your shirt. NEXT???
I haven’t twisted anything. You keep glazing over the fact that Nuno was trained in a martial art. this makes him a weapon. In the eys of the law and anyone with an common sense, Nuno was armed with a weapon. His trained fists. Nuno brought a weapon with him to every physical altercation he had with this kid, and due to his training was at a vast advantage.
Nuno was his weapon.
The kid brought the knife in case things escalated to the point that he needed to defend himself against another imposing person threatening bodily hard to him which Nuno did. We know this was his intention because he made multiple attempts to avoid Nuno which shows above all other options available to him, the one he wished for was to be left the fuck alone and have nothing to do with Nuno.That was what he wanted. That was not what he got. Instead he got stalked and jumped, by an armed man as Nuno was.
The fact that he brought a knife doesn’t show he wanted to kill Nuno. It shows that Nuno had tormented and abused this kid so much, the kid felt his safety, probably his life, was in jeopardy. 14 year old boys don’t just arm themselves for no reason. A clear and present threat causes kids, young kids, a fucking 14 year old child to arm himself to fear of his own safety.
Him feeling he needed a knife doesn’t show “A willingness to use it.” What it shows was a scared, frightened little boy, at the end of his wits about what to do cuz no one else seems willing to help him, being tormented by what, at that age, comes off as a fucking giant.
And yes he was 100% in the right when you look at it logically and morally, fuck especially morally. Nuno stalked and tormented him, advanced on him twice after the kid tried to avoid the situation. Nuno punched him in the back of the fucking head, a move that can mentally damage or even kill with little effort. Nuno threatened his life. The kid had every right to take Nuno’s as Nuno clearly didn’t give a shit about the kids of own life when he punched him in the back of the fucking skull. You know what is morally wrong tho?
Stalking, abusing, and assaulting a 14 year old.
Now take the advice I gave you a page or so ago and stop posting.
holy shit, I’m going nowhere with you. To each their own I guess.
that’s an entirely different subject. The amount of people who have died from street violence doesn’t equate to the amount of people who have died from physical altercations with bullies. If anything, I don’t think any have died from altercations with bullies, if any it’s very few or rare. The cases are usually in which people kill themselves from bullying.
" Suicide is the third leading cause of death among young people, resulting in about 4400 deaths per year, according to the CDC. For every suicide among young people, there are at least 100 suicide attempts. Over 14 percent of high school students have considered suicide, and almost 7 percent have attempted it
Bully victims are between 2 to 9 times more likely to consider suicide than non-victims, according to studies by Yale University"
This nigga should have commited suicide because we sure as fuck don’t need anymore passive aggressive beta bitches running around stabbing people for cutting in line during lunch and throwing spit wads.
Like I said, you’re posting from your lack of experience. Your experience is extremely limited to weak non-organized bullies. You had no guarantee that after your “win” that the bully didn’t have a friend a block down the road walk right by you, turn around, and then knock you dead from behind.
I am happy for you that your experience is so limited. Though I have not experienced anything too terrible myself, seeing a lot opened my eyes.
Oh it’s not like the kid was gonna get stomped into the ground by the bully and his 3 friends and he actually had a chance of being beaten to death.
Troll harder
EDIT: Also, beta? Are you for fucking real right now? Killing someone who stepped out of line at least in the animal kingdom is *the *definition of Alpha.
You where no where to begin with. You’ve been off point this whole topic. I mean i just posted up two nice long posts explaining why your off point and all you’ve done is reiterate your wrong point to my first post, then say not a fucking thing to the second one except “well I got nothin on that so generic filler bullshit so i don’t have to actually address his points. Whew. Just barely avoided that one.”
But it’s cool dude. I’m done with your ass anyway.