www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa2ju7gWbNg
simply does not reach
the elbow is inside the opponent but does not cause hit
Its Bug…
Yep, the elbow has no air to air hitbox and this will remain that way after the patch so I assume capcom wants to keep it this way.
Annoying especially I believe for those that play him in AE, but he has a whole bunch of stuff, more coming in 2013, that it can be worked around.
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This situation is very disgusting
when I looked at it, not reaching
I almost jumped out of chair. hehehehe
This is true. But hey, if you look at the Guy thread you can still find some great things about him. No need to get rid of the character because of this, though it does suck.
just that discouraged me a lot… :’(
but let’s wait the 2013 version
maybe still have something good about Guy
There definitely is. In a quick nutshell:
-Can get in on just about anyone, so an amazing first character to be paired with a slow but damaging second one.
-Strong mixups for a SF character.
-c.MP is a surprisingly strong AAir and if they cross up just Slide away and regain position.
-LK Tatsu tag cancel is great for building damage
-cross up elbow drop still incredibly dangerous and you can train them to respect it despite nerf.
2013 changes specifically:
-Air Throw is going to be comboable and generates huge meter
-Massive damage buff to his Final Fight Strings, and them being unique in general with Boosts getting nerfed so much.
-Overheads are going to be more consistent
-More armor on moves.
Man, I’d really play Guy myself if he was easier.
I Feel you OP. When Guy first released and I played him (my main) I used his elbow drop and noticed the hit box for A2A was super bad compared to his IV version. I still take him in ranked but that upset me as well. I learned to deal with it though =)
he doesn’t have an air-to-air hitbox AT ALL
Yeah this sucks so bad I to it and get hit for it.
But if people are neutral jumping during a blockstring bushin to counter elbow, can you not just grab them?
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It’s the command elbow drop. Air down mp
Well yeah both the command and bushin followup have no air hitboxes. I’d be more surprised but we knew this 10 months ago. Imagine the panic then before all the good stuff Guy got in return was known lol. So like, if you jumped at them and they always neutral jumped early to counter the elbow, aren’t there other things you can do to stuff them? Sprinkle in the elbow here and there after you’ve punished their attempts to punish it and you have a real solid move.
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Wanna see how jump mp into bushin throw works out for air to sir. It Just makes no sense they removed his air hitboxes
without this blow, the Guy gameplay is useless.
Keep saying these things despite me already giving things to the contrary, good players playing Guy well, and things are only going to get better in 2013. Some people forget this, but sfxt is a completely different game than AE. I do not hear AE players complaining Ryu doesn’t have a full beam super he can use in the air, I mean it is important in another game so clearly he sucks without it there.
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any fighting game that Guy in, has hitbox elbow in the air.
why not in SFxT ?!
You should spread the word on this, I hate Guy mirrors. Nobody play him. He’s crap.
I dunno though, I suppose they left out the air to air hit box because you can juggle off of air hits in this, so if if his elbow had a lot of priority, a lot of active frames and a good hitbox it’d be almost unbeatable. If it was an air to air trade that won everytime into full combo with those properties…not that I’d be complaining, but it might end up having the same amount of hatred as Hugo’s splash as is.
oh like some of the Tekken characters have (Raven, the Mishimas, etc.)?
Probably worse. Guy can Air to Air hit with MP into Air Izuna in update, Air MP into St.MP>Tatsu combos like that, Air to Air hit with Neck Flip(Run>Overhead) juggles the same way. It sucks he doesn’t have the Air Elbow hitbox, but it’s not like he’s stranded without it. I’d take a comboable F+MP overhead over the Elbow hitbox personally. If his elbow did have air hitbox, yeah, it’d be like Hei or Kaz HK, but probably even more of a bitch to deal with because of Guy’s mobility. It sucks to not have it, but at least it keeps you honest by not letting it be abused. I’m indifferent about it now, the system buffs and throw buffs will work in Guy’s favor bigtime in 2013
If ya ask me, Guy’s got way more strengths in the upcoming patch to compensate for his lack of an air-to-air hitbox on his elbow drop. I’ve found that it’s more effective as a movement tool, anyway.