i can bring a 13 inch
i dont know about you but i’ve notcied that i play a lot better and win more if i go into every match with a overall game plan. depending on who and what char i am playing. if i’m playing against you or phil my main goal is to bait out SRK and punish hard and to avoid the knock down. if i’m playing a balrog my goal is to keep just enough pressure so he doesn’t feel like he is controlling the whole match, bait headbutt etc.
sometimes ryan it seems like you go into a match and just wing it. you try to do what you do best without considering what you shouyld, or could be doing in order to change the tide and keep the match in your favor. after you lose a match instead of rushing into the next one just sit there and try to focus on why you lost and not like ( oh i got hit by a headbutt) but something like " why was i in that situation in the first place and what could i have done so even if he did the headbutt i would still be alive". i cant find the link for it but i watched a video by ultra david(gief) player and he broke down a match video point for point and how you should be looking at certain things.
mmm Cannon Spikes.
Since we are leaving late saturday, I may be able to stop by afterall. Anyone need me to bring any non-wii equipment?
-B
great advice. yeah i think i do seem to notice that about you ryan. and hell up until recently that’s how i played too but now i got a plan on what to do even at certain ranges. game plan is pretty important
exactly, you gooa think about it like a mma fighter thinks about a fight. he goes in with a gameplan, lets say he is great at stand up but not so great on the ground. then his whole focus in that match is gonna be to keep the fight standing. hes not gonna want a change in his gameplan so he is gonna try to prevent a change as hard as possible.
cha i would really like to get some games in against your cammy. its such a shitty match for abel and i feel lacking against her
i always have winged it, everyone knows i play on reaction and execution only, basically… im random, and i dont see myself getting past that at all. im pretty much a casual player at this point now that only wants a few wins here and there then satisfied. that what i summed myself up to be, if im not learning somone’s patterns or match ups within 10-20 matches there is something wrong here with me then. specially that ive been playing the same guys over and over again 2-3 times a week sometimes more. everyone is a on a differently level than me. they have changed, i haven’t
I’d recommend picking up that book from brian. The one about the unfettered mind. Before I did, I was already starting to develop some kind of basic mindset which was kinda similar to what that’s trying to explain. And I think doing so has helped me a good bit. Though I obviously still have a long way to go. In any case, the book does lay out much of what I’m currently striving for.
I don’t really have a set game plan when I go into a match. But I do try to sorta “prime” my head with the tactics and capabilities of the opposing character that often give me trouble in matchups, before the fight starts. After that though, I try to not focus on any one thing. Keeping a general focus, rather than a focus on something specific, has helped with my reactions and even general execution.
And it helps me to perform to a style of play that’s simply more difficult to read. I do think that as long as I am honest with myself with what works and what won’t, my instincts start to become valid.
The other side of it is to keep myself from being scared, frustrated, or flustered. The worst that can happen is to lose. You do have to hate to lose. But that’s where the emotions need to stop.
Anyway, that’s my two pence. Take it for what it’s worth. I still struggle a ton with keeping the mindset above. But there have been episodes of play that I’ve experienced where I’ve just stopped giving games away… no matter who I’m playing against or how they’re playing. And I find that something like that is way more important to shoot for rather than, say, perfect execution.
you are far from random. to be honest i’d say you’re the opposite. i think you play a very patterned game which allows it to be very readable. i used to be the same because i used to just try to react / execute shit, run a very patterned offense [ my patterns were crossup tatsu on untech knockdowns 95% of the time, jab jab tick throw, when shit gets dicey and i got 2 meters, hope for srk ultra, the list goes on ] and that’s just not the right way to play fighters. you gotta try to be one step ahead of your opponent. you have good qualities to get better, such as you max punish, you know your ranges with footsies, you pretty much know a lot about ryu. just put it all together. try to think more about the matchup / patterns of your opponent than your execution, gotta get past that because execution should just be second nature.
try stuff out, if it works incorporate it into your game plan, if it doesn’t scrap it. don’t be too focused on execution [ i still have this problem 'cause bad execution leads me to be in a shitty mood haha ]. try to think what your opponent is thinking and think of a counter. if you’re getting hit by something a lot try to find a solution [ i’m obviously still working on all these things but that’s what i try to think about now ]
i said to tony p yesterday that his ryu style with block strings is similar to his balrog. ryu has great FAST normals like balrog does so you can do something like… block string, step back and maybe your opponent will throw whiff or throw out some random punishable move and do what you do best, max punish that shit.
you don’t pick up on patterns and stuff because you don’t even try lol. ain’t nuttin wrong with u, your far from dumb. the game is deeper than what you see so far and you just don’t want to accept that… DIG DEEPER! HAHA
actually a book doesnt help i dont care for reading at all, so i wont even try that. Jug i knew sf is deep, and ive been trying it since i got good enough and capable to learn it, and its just not going in the right direction for me at all. i do try to read patterns and such, i just dont have the mental strength to learn patterns at all. pretty much reached my limit, nothing i can do it about it. specially that im playing a lot of hours, im just not learning. when i decide to learn. i get bored fast. its just how my mentality is. my potential is gone at this point.
You focus too much on looking fancy and pulling off crazy combos. You lost about 5 or 6 games to me last night because you fucked up a punish at the end of a match when a hard punch->shoryu would have been more than enough to kill me. You were like 50% on the solar plexus->c.hp->shoryu combos last night, and I punished all of the misses HARD. That combo that ended with an ex tatsu was pretty neat, I forget what it was, but you only landed that ~50% as well and when you messed it up I got a knockdown and swung the game way in my favor. I am impressed by your tech. ability and reactions for sure…but you find it necessary to try to shoryu every dash punch and turn punch that I throw out, which gets you annihilated because you essentially have to put in the motion before I do the move.
Concentrate more on simple punishes and combos that you can do 100% of the time as opposed to combos that do 30 more damage but are missed 50% of the time. I almost never (99% of the time) miss my bnb headbutt combo…even though I can do more damage by using jab jab mp headbutt, I have decided that it isn’t worth the extra 40 damage because I miss it and eat a huge punish more often than not. If I do try it in a match I do it when I have a huge life lead so it doesn’t matter if I miss the headbutt.
I abused headbutt because you didn’t punish it well enough most of the time…so my mentality the entire night was headbutt headbutt headbutt, because when I connected one it gave me an ultra opportunity or a knockdown mixup. Your main problem is a lack of concentration and the fact that you get visibly upset when you screw something up. If I am able to see you get pissed off, you know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna try to piss you off even more and throw you off your game. When I was connecting a bunch of jab strings I could hear you sigh+get annoyed that ‘I am boxer and jab my way out of everything’, so I jabbed and jabbed some more. This got into your head and made you not think about the match at hand, and ended up in missed combos and poor punishes. It’s a game dude, chill out. If you don’t have fun playing and get angry playing, simply don’t play because it makes it less enjoyable for everyone who is playing you, and everyone who is watching. I don’t enjoy making people angry.
I don’t do anything magical other than look at risk vs. reward based on what my opponents most likely action would be.
When I play Ryu I barely know what the hell I am doing but I make it work because I utilize shoryu fadc, and I am able to work a grab game very well…for example: If I use solar plexus and it is blocked by you, it presents a 50-50 situation…I will either grab, or shoryu afterward. When I have 2 bars, the chance that I shoryu increases dramatically, since that is a free ultra if I delay the shoryu a few frames and catch you in a grab animation. If I delay shoryu and you block, well, then the situation is reset and I come out plus 30something chip damage.
In short: It’s all about the basics, and a lot of you overlook the basics over and over again.
Also, Jug…I hate your Fei Long.
Need to watch me, you’ll learn how to play random. My biggest problem is I have a near 100% prediction playstyle, the total opposite, I’m like 100% guessing and no execution. Problem is I guess wrong and bite it, even if I guess right a lot of the time. Ask joe, when I’m playing Gouken sometimes I completely lock him out with fireballs for a whole match just guessing right.
Once I master the power of chaos, you will all fear me.
you are so right about the frustration thing. it makes you see things in tunnel vision and just makes you play worse and worse. sometimes we all get mad but you just gotta relax
Ok the self-depreciation should stop now before I gag on my vomit. Ryan Ryan how far you’ve fallen. You’ve lost yourself and the spirit of the street fighter. The old you that I knew would never just go into a fight with no gameplan. You’re missing solar plexus combos??? Cmon dude!
Tony i came into Thursday wanting to practice that 1 frame link when i had opprunities since thrusdays was just out casual game night. unlike saturdays, and its well worth the dmg, i folded under pressure nothing u can do about it, hell i was even missing my trademark SPS to Fr.srk… thats just not like me at all. im disgusted about my overall game play, im not all about flashy combos, never was, never will be. everyone knows i like punishing HARD as possible its the one of the 3 things im only good at doing. i was landing sps > chp > srk. last night no problem. it was the ex tatsu at the end i was messing up a lot. again i folded under pressure because it was new that i added to my game. im more pissed/depressed/disgusted about my over gameplay and losing 10-20 times in a row that should be not happing anymore but it is. to me it shows to me i will not improve anymore then where i am. every time you dashed punch yea i did shryu u it i wanted to make u not dash at me, and fear it, thats point of it zone u out, and get in close since balrog sucks during wake up. i was baiting your headbuts out, and punishing them decently, i was chp and tatsuing, not a bad punish, could be better, but it threw u near the corner where i want you. i just failed at the match up for fucking up basic’s as i normally do and falling for stupid shit. that never catch on at all and prolly will never catch one. same with jug. he did the same shit over and over to me, and i never caught on. plus it doesnt really help i limited fei long experience. the more and more i play this game im starting to see its just probably just not for me anymore.
Haha, well, you were pretty down on yourself so I figured I’d try to let you know what I thought…I understand that game nights are practice sessions, but when you get that frustrated when practicing it’s not good. But yeah, I played Jug’s Fei about 13 or 14 games and won about 3 or 4 of them so its not just you…stupid command grab.
I am gonna try to make it out to the barcade tomorrow night, but if I come out it’ll be around 730-8 cuz I work a 9-6 tomorrow.
Also, Brian–you said you had books on ‘flow’…I am very interested in reading them, if you could bring a few with you to the barcade tomorrow. I read pretty quickly so I’d probably have em back to you in a few weeks. I would also chip in 50 bucks for an ikaruga board for sure, love that game.
I’ll be there at around 3pm as a note.
also this can be changed but i think we should do best out of 1 when we do th king of machine thing. my reasons, faster much faster, and instead of trying to adapted in the second game you will have to sit there and think why you lost until you’re up again
need stuff brought?
The single set idea is good kyle.
Also, we should try to find a way to prevent cable swapping. Either with 4 port usb ps3s or external usb hubs. Controller position switching is just faster.