Thanks for the data. But, are you sure these are correct? Some of them seem a frame faster than noted.
For exmaple, all of these can punish Abel’s Change of Direction :lp: (-5)
[details=Spoiler]st.lp 6f
st.lk 7f
cr.lp 6f
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And all of these can punish Abel’s Change of Direction :mp: (-6)
[details=Spoiler]cr.lk 7f
cl.mp 7f
cl.hp 7f
lp.fisherman 7f
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It is possible that I miscounted (I was doing this while dead-ass tired @ 3am haha), I’ll go back and double check these when I get a chance and let you know.
Cool.
I tried doing it earlier. But, that stuff can really tedious. LOL! I don’t know how you guys can do that.
Thanks for picking up on that!
I’m probably going to go into the lab and figure out the startup and frame advantage/disadvantage on block for all his normals tonight. I’ll post up what I find.
I think lp.recca is unsafe, I feel like sometimes I just downback after a st.lp,st.mp,st.lp string into lp.recca and they jab punish me, might be -3 or -4 because it definantly doesn’t seem easy.
I think :lp: rekka -5. Akuma can sweep it.
Has it been pointed out that Bryan can corpse hop with forward dash in the corner? If you do his :f::mk: string into sweep, immediately forward dash and neutral jump :hk: for a safe jump against 4 frame reversals.
I’m in practice mode now and LP FH gets blown up by Vega’s j.HP 8/10 times.
All of his specials are unsafe, except for Mach Breaker.
I think the lowest they are (if I remember from my notes yesterday) he has like 1 special that’s -3 when EX or something, but everything else is consistently -5 or -8, for his QCF+P, the first hit is always -5 (Ryu can punish with cr.Forward) but EX he has armor.
Really? I was checking with Ryu, Julia and Gief. I’ll check out this Vega business tonight.
This Would Be his Meterless Bnb Right? [media=youtube]tGmcdd0ZLpA[/media]
Just posted this video lol
So, how do you guys feel about Bryan on point? How would you go about that?
So I just double checked my data. Unless something odd is going on with my recording software, the values in my previous post are correct. I’ll be uploading the exported frames overnight and have a link to it in the morning for anyone that wants to have a look.
im finding it difficult to link medium punch after HPxLP chain its bloody frustrating lol and is anyone going to make seperate threads for combos, frame data and videos most threads have done theres for new characters, Bryan needs some love too XD
I think I’ll commit myself to Bryan. Seems everyones bum rushing Lars. I wonder if I can make Bryan / Kazuya work… Just have to figure out how exactly this guy works when all of his supers are so unsafe.
Just checked this, and LP FH is fine against Vega’s j. HP. It’s a little tougher because Vega hits so high in the jump with his j.HP because of his claw, but if your move starts up before his or at the same time, it will beat it.
Just have to be a bit stricter with your reactions, but the move is solid.
Hmm. I’m not sure how you can punish something that’s -5 with something that has 7 frames of startup, though.
Maybe I’m looking at something incorrectly. Are Abel’s Change of Direction :lp: and :mp: not -5 and -6, respectively?
I want to try this team as well, but I’ve learning Lars at the same time :oops:.
If it helps at all, I’ve been trying to play Bryan like a slower version of Vega with an amazing AA. I really like his :lp:, :mp: and :f::mk: pokes, and I feel like a lot of people are having trouble invading his space right now. But, I think he’s really weak against strong pressure.
I’ve been testing with Bryan’s LP Fisherman Slam anti air to see which heights you can confirm from. Basically, there’s four different follow ups depending on how early you hit them.
Follow up 1: Strike near Bryan’s chest or lower. This height can only be confirmed by tag canceling.
Follow up 2. Strike at Bryan’s head, in front of it. You can follow up with sweep only, jab whiffs.
Follow up 3. Strike at Bryan’s head, above it. You can connect with jabs, so it’s possible to do this combo. LP FS, st.lp xx HP FS xx Atomic Throw, cr.lp xx Flying Knee. 358 damage.
Follow up 4. This absolute apex of LP FS hitbox. Follow up is “Mid Kick to Rush” target combo, Mach breaker. 378 damage. (You’ll probably never land this, though)
LP Fisherman hitbox is also really nice since it hits slightly behind him as well. Stopping them cross ups.
Mach Breaker is actually deceivingly unsafe, especially point blank.
Unsafe to what? The pushback is so huge that very, very few moves that aren’t supers can actually punish it. If you know a compelling reason not to use it, do say.
Btw this video isn’t impressive, do his hp, lp string, link into hp, into fisherman, cr.lp, fisherman then the follow-up, cr.lp into flying knee it does like 433 or something around that.
Btw I just use his hp, lp string into his lp.mp.lp string into recca, its easy to land builds lots of meter with the follow up juggle, gives you lots of time to figure out what kind of meter you want to use at the end of the juggle, if u wanna tag, etc.
And besides if I was going to put a more difficult link in my bnb, it with be hp because it amps bryans combo’s up like 100-150 damage in total