I see were Serp is coming from. Right now Thor is consider a low tier “hero” character by most. The two notable Thor teams on streams have him paired with teammates that I consider point characters only. Like Serp I want to see Thor grow as a character and for him to grow he needs a supporting cast that best suits him. But at the same time I’m all for individuality and picking whoever you want. I mean Thor is lower than Haggar on some peoples tier list HAGGAR!!!
Real talk, Haggar is kinda awful with brief glimpses of awesome.
Thor is more of a slow burn kinda character. He doesn’t really get explosive comebacks and I think that’s largely why he goes unnoticed.
Onto more important things:
Color 4, 6 or gaudy classic alt?
I like 4 over the alt and 6 if they wanted to do beta ray bill they should’ve instead of giving Thor a suntan.
Thor is a no can do character as far as the tournament scene is concerned. Any top player I’ve asked just says “He can fight Morrigan because of his hammer strikes.” Or doesn’t know anything of Thor at all. The only players who know underneath the underneath are the loyalists who’ve been playing’m since vanilla or have really put the time in. Dr.Strange used to be the same way and I’m sure X-23’s & Rocket Raccoon players are in the same funk. Some of us myself included need to travel to more majors arrange meet ups and set the standard for Thor! To be honest I also get kinda frustrated watching sloppy Thor play showcased.
lol if anything “being a dick” is what 90% of the FGC players do, and people vote for them in popularity contests. I’m an honest player with great respect for competitors, always has been and will always be, not only in marvel. That said, honesty leads sometimes to harsh truths that some people dont want to hear. Like RagingDemon said, its dumb to see Thor rated below … lets say, She-hulk, because the Thor player that get more stream time has a trash thor/thor team but an ok xf3 shulk. All the Zero, Mag, Morrigan, Wolverine, etc players are playing optimized stuff or very close to optimal in their teams and are always looking for new info/tactics that make their highly competitive characters stronger, so its not logical that the most of the Thor players are still stuck in Ultimate 1st month building teams phase and taking those lab experiments to high level tournaments; pairing Thor with ass support characters is as bad as pairing zero,morrigan or magneto with ass support characters, 50% of the fight at the highest level in marvel is decided in character select screen. Thor/Haggar is trash, there i said it. Its not my intention to sound “negative”, or to say that people should be forced to play the game in some prescribed way, but if our objective as community is finding those “info/tactics that make our competitive character stronger” we have to be honest with our picks after of 2 years of metagame development.
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Classic alt or #2 light blue for dr strange color synergy
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I believe in Thor/Log but Raccoon is so bad >> kinda like Thor/Ironman, One of my suggested teams for possible top 5 best Thor teams was Thor/Raccoon/Vergil but stopped playing it cause Coon make me lose games >> [/details]
The best team I’ve come up with is Thor/Task/Doom because a whole they have great synergy and even in pairs they have great synergy so I don’t get why Taskmaster isn’t on that list but whatever.
Onto more important things:
Color 4, 6 or gaudy classic alt?
- I always pick 4.
6 is so bling though. It’s like he’s wearing a full body grill.
In all honesty, I’ve been playing Thorridoom and it seems like a super solid team. Just need to work on my Morrigan and get used to not having a horizontal assist (takes some getting used to )
lol if anything “being a dick” is what 90% of the FGC players do, and people vote for them in popularity contests.
Thats sad but true… Unfortunately.
I love color 4 and color 3… But its so hard to match up.
I’m running thor dorm ammy. So i pretty much go all red. Why can’t dormammu have a black outfit!
Anybody figure out uses for liberation assist with no charges? I’m giving it a whirl and when things are going right and I can get dorm charged up. It’s a party. But if I’m gonna use it I better get use to all aspects of it.
So far I think I’m close to using it to help with some corner resets. Nothing in stone yet.
in the corner, smash M (ground bounce), cr.H + call dorm, launcher, TK cancel Spark M is a link
Any good combos that Thor could pull off with Rocket Raccoon’s Log Trap?
I can get a million off of Log trap and a 1.5 bars in stock. It really depends on who you’re second assist is though. I think Log Trap is one of his best assists though by far. I wish I had a way to record for you…But, you can practically confirm from anywhere with S sj.m, m, h xx M mighty strike xx Thornado… mash and DHC to mad Hopper (causes slow state fall down), hard tag thor and do SSS combo. Doesn’t work on all characters, but most, and you need to get two hits of the mighty strike to keep them close to Thor’s body. You can also land two Spark loops if you can get the mid screen version down which will build meter to allow for the combo above to do a lot of damage. An OTG assist is where log trap really shines. That’s how I’m pushing over 1 million off a log trap confirm.
My favorite part of this forum is how everybody bring irrelevant teams to the discussion, fail IRL, then stop posting for weeks.
can’t we all pls just focus on Thor/Dorm/Doom, Thor/Strange/Ammy, and Thor + bfs (Morri, Phoenix, Vergil, Dante(?) (seriously i know almost nothing about THor + Dante, someone should investigate), beam assists, etc) (?)
Thor - Beam, Doom - beam, Pheonix - TK TRAP, is probably my favorite team to play right now. It limits Thors combo options somewhat but it gives me an excuse to go for what I like about Thor the most, resets! Beam is so useful for thor because unlike other assists we commonly use it lets him change his gameplan to less of a sit back and while pressuring with mighty strikes to an actual rush down, beam just clears the way. I still have to get used to confirming off stray beam cause it can put you in some weird positions but its pretty cool. Also Thor, Hard Tag doom, stomps, then go for TAC or Footdive resets after making the pop out of Mighty Spark is pretty fun. Its too bad the tk trap combo is so spacing specific cause that builds alot of meter too but whatever. This team is really fun, a slightly weaker mags, doom, phx. Though most people who play that use missiles for some reason… which just seems like a mistake
I play Thor Doom missiles Ammy cold star I think it’s a great team after some advice from Alukard I switched the point character from time to time to Magneto or Nova to be a little more competitive but after a while I was able to apply some of the gameplay elements from them and apply it to my Thor which made the team better. Thor Doom share the same unbearable bad match ups but in those cases I swap Thor for Nova and switch Doom to beam.
Serp I’ve been in the lab with Thor Dante but it’s with crystal. It’s a little easier for me to use in conjunction with Thor than Jam session as a lock down plus it’s a otg. I can SSS from it and dhc to sword loops or devil trigger jump S I have Vergil in the middle but he’s ass I’m not a Vergil player I just don’t drop sword loops. Dante can confirm from stinger reverb shock + mighty spark. Vergil can stinger round trip + mighty spark and get his left right blah blah started. I’ll post more as it develops
My favorite part of this forum is how everybody bring irrelevant teams to the discussion, fail IRL, then stop posting for weeks.
can’t we all pls just focus on Thor/Dorm/Doom, Thor/Strange/Ammy, and Thor + bfs (Morri, Phoenix, Vergil, Dante(?) (seriously i know almost nothing about THor + Dante, someone should investigate), beam assists, etc) (?)
I don’t think you should try to steer people away from creativity like that. Never know what could come from exploring different compositions. Rubeks runs Skrull/Spencer/MODOK which sounds hilariously bad, but he bodies people handily.
That being said, I’m done being in limbo and have decided to permanently go with Thor/Doom/Ammy
Thor Doom Ammy is only good if you have a really good Thor Doom and Ammy. Sometimes you just can’t get anythign started with Thor. I think the team is very strong but its a bit harder to get shit started. Though if you can Tac Infintie with all 3 and don’t drop any of their other stuff, its very strong. Serp just doesn’t like cause I think his doom is probably his weakest character and this team you have to play Doom
Thor Doom Ammy is only good if you have a really good Thor Doom and Ammy. Sometimes you just can’t get anythign started with Thor. I think the team is very strong but its a bit harder to get shit started. Though if you can Tac Infintie with all 3 and don’t drop any of their other stuff, its very strong. Serp just doesn’t like cause I think his doom is probably his weakest character and this team you have to play Doom
Between Thor and Doom you don’t need TAC infinites to confirm bodies. If it was a Phoenix team id go for infinites all day. Since I’m going for kills 1,2,3 regular TAC combos get the job done.
You need a good nuetral with Ammy on this team more than anything Thor and Doom practically play themselves. No Ammy neutral game? She dies! Doom comes in gets lamed out then Thor is a sitting duck.
I was running a thor dorm ammy team, but I have switched to thor dorm strange. I might switch up order of dorm and strange depending on matchup.
I was having way too much trouble using coldstar as a neutral assist. Thor and dorm have faired much better with strange. I know strange is no doom, but me and doom just don’t get along.
And now a question. I don’t comprehend why Morrogan is a bff for thor? Soul fist assist or dark harmonized don’t seen that awesome. Am I missing some sick DHC or something? Please enlighten me. I know morrigan is good, but if that’s it? Then I don’t see why she’s a bff?
All the characters that use meter to control neutral game are Thor bfs (Dorm, Vergil, Morrigan, Phoenix, Dr Strange, Amaterasu, etc)
Dr Doom is not my weakest character but playing Doom second is not very nice if you’re not willing to DHC him out into something that can control neutral game better like Vergil, Dormammu, Morrigan, etc. I dont think Photon Array > DHC to Vale of Mist is OP but its very good so you can go for that instead of the obvious THC that is like the only chance of Doom/Ammy to strike back against certain characters. Doom/Ammy with the THC gameplan lose hard to a lot of stuff, i know for sure that the matchup is free to Dormammu/Missiles and Dr Strange/Ammy
Doom in General just has alot of issues when only assisted by Ammy with the 2 shells you listed, you basically have to THC at the appropriate time to try and get anything started and especially against strange that doesn’t guarantee you anything cause the thc while good isn’t amazing. I think with out something to pin people in place so doom get get some form of pressure started Doom just isn’t that great second as you noted. You have to play a really high level doom to make doom with just cold star work, especially against stuff you listed.