Brook PS3/PS4 "Fightboard" PCB Thread

[Vicko]

Nice post and excellent diagram/image. Thank you. But this is why I refuse to solder. I have feet for hands. I tried soldering Thrustmaster F22 (the old gameport joysticks) for doing simple stuff like replacing potentiometers and wires, and that was with crappy equipment. To be a good solderer, you need decent gear. And if you’re just doing it once, I don’t know if paying hundreds of dollars for a nice station is worth it. Although I see now, if you charge OTHER people to fix their stuff, you can make some nice coin back.

@gigachico
Do what Darksakul said and hopefully your stuff will work cleanly. BTW also consider investing in a multimeter, ESPECIALLY for dual mod soldering.

All 3 of my stations were ~$40 each
I don’t like to move things around, that’s why I have 3.

[Darksakul]

I don’t know if paying hundreds of dollars for a nice station is worth it.

Thats only for a hot air reflow station, were you can do reballing of Ball solder and solder flow entire logic boards.

And people have sidestep that with a modified toaster oven.
For every day though hole component soldering you can get away with a $15 POS soldering iron from Radio Snack.

I even picked up a chines knock off of a Hakko soldering station for less than 20.

[Ghostoni2]

Can i get some help with Home button on the turbo panel of madcatz TE? I have XGUILD(on turbo panel) wired to PS_KEY(on brook) but not quiet sure where to wire KGND. Ive tried wiring KGND to the 8-button ground and also tried the GND shown in the diagram.i.imgur.com/eHQ6IEp.png
I also tried wiring KGND and GND directly underneath the pcb in the bottom right. No luck so far.

[Tensho]

Pretty sure you need power going to the turbo panel too unless you do?

[Vicko]

USBVCC - VCC
GND - GND
XGUILD - PS
Turbo - Turbo or Touch
KGND - KGND on button terminal strip

[darkdragon88]

Argh my stick disconnected mid-match and it wasn’t even 8 minutes in. I got through my second match without a disconnect but I’m wondering if anyone had the same issue? I definitely

[Vicko]

check your USB cable/connection

[Darksakul]

check your USB cable/connection

I agree with Vicko, that you describe sounds like a busted USB cable or a lose USB connection.

[darkdragon88]

check your USB cable/connection

Something I should add is that I play on PC at home and of course the tournament was on PS4. I came home and I’ve been playing on PC without changing anything for the past 20 minutes. Does Windows 10 have some sort of USB signal fix that the PS4 does not?

[Darksakul]

check your USB cable/connection

Something I should add is that I play on PC at home and of course the tournament was on PS4. I came home and I’ve been playing on PC without changing anything for the past 20 minutes. Does Windows 10 have some sort of USB signal fix that the PS4 does not?

more like a damaged spot on your USB cord where you kink it or move right and you lose or gain connection
If you notice a malformed or distorted section of cord, and you lose and or gain connection, there is a break in one of the wiring of the USB cable

[Brook_Engineer]

Yo dude.
Your top wires’ solder joints are touching each other on at least one of those photos. There’s a bridge.

For once I agree with @Falkentyne
You need to clean up your soldering work.

Some pads have too much solder, while other pads have almost done.

Do you see the solder points that came on the board, how everything looks like a little volcano.
That is how your soldering should be. If your soldering starts to look like a dome or ball/blob you used too much.

You might have to buy some electrical soldering flux to assist in your soldering.
It reduce oxidation of metal surfaces and allow solder to spread evenly.

http://vcampus.co/tutorials/eee/images/joints.gif

https://cdn-learn.adafruit.com/assets/assets/000/001/978/medium800/tools_Header_Joints.jpg

so great!!

[Vicko]

check your USB cable/connection

Something I should add is that I play on PC at home and of course the tournament was on PS4. I came home and I’ve been playing on PC without changing anything for the past 20 minutes. Does Windows 10 have some sort of USB signal fix that the PS4 does not?

Some PS4 models do not operate under full USB spec and will not power some devices completely. I can’t for the life of me find any documentation on it, but if you google it, you can see that some people can’t charge a pad and use a headset at the same time. I have seen people with 2 stock sticks, or 1 modded and one not, doesn’t matter the combination really, with the same issue as recent as WCW4.

[Darksakul]

check your USB cable/connection

Something I should add is that I play on PC at home and of course the tournament was on PS4. I came home and I’ve been playing on PC without changing anything for the past 20 minutes. Does Windows 10 have some sort of USB signal fix that the PS4 does not?

Some PS4 models do not operate under full USB spec and will not power some devices completely. I can’t for the life of me find any documentation on it, but if you google it, you can see that some people can’t charge a pad and use a headset at the same time. I have seen people with 2 stock sticks, or 1 modded and one not, doesn’t matter the combination really, with the same issue as recent as WCW4.

a powered USB Hub could by pass the power issue

[Dubon]

i just got this in a mail from the nsdp.es guy

dont have any more info about it yet though. id like to know if it has usb switching functionality.

[SageOfSammiches]

Anyone know if it’s possible to make a hitbox from the brook premade ist kit from Focus Attack out of the box? I made a fatal mistake of getting a pcb that gave weird results if you hit 3 directions simultaneously on accident. Like while doing a half circle for example. Don’t want to make that mistake again haha

[Darksakul]

I don’t see why not. Electrically nothing has changed between a hitbox layout and a normal stick layout.

The only issue is the premade kit from Focus attack will have to have the joystick wire harness modified for use with buttons.
Which would be clipping off the connector and adding the connectors you need, maybe splicing in more wire to reach all of your buttons signals and ground.

The other thing is I don’t remember if The Brook PCB has SOCD filtering or not, I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread.

[Noryia]

I don’t see why not. Electrically nothing has changed between a hitbox layout and a normal stick layout.

The only issue is the premade kit from Focus attack will have to have the joystick wire harness modified for use with buttons.
Which would be clipping off the connector and adding the connectors you need, maybe splicing in more wire to reach all of your buttons signals and ground.

The other thing is I don’t remember if The Brook PCB has SOCD filtering or not, I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread.

The Brook ‘Fightboard’ has SOCD filtering. I use it for one of my hitboxes.

[Jasen_Hicks]

i just got this in a mail from the nsdp.es guy

http://i.imgur.com/8YZRJuK.jpg?1

dont have any more info about it yet though. id like to know if it has usb switching functionality.

That looks like Paradise’s from months ago…

http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/4468-thickbox_default/paradise-breakout-for-the-brook-ps3ps4-fighting-board-.jpg

[GOGO.Zippy]

Hi Guys
Brook released V1.5 firmware to support …

1. Manual combo keys setting for DP/LS/RS mode
   Options_key + Dpad_up = DP
   Options_key + Dpad_left = LS
   Options_key + Dpad_right = RS

Go to brookaccessory.com/download/PS4/

[Oniwaza]

Hi Guys
Brook released V1.5 firmware to support …

1. Manual combo keys setting for DP/LS/RS mode
   Options_key + Dpad_up = DP
   Options_key + Dpad_left = LS
   Options_key + Dpad_right = RS

Go to brookaccessory.com/download/PS4/

So is the reaction time improvement only for the Universal Fighting Board ?