Bringing Sexy Back - Nemesis Discussion Thread (Pg.18 and beyond)

[Carpark]

his normals that they tested are safe except the armored shoulder charge, strider could punish it on block. It is cancellable though. Some of his bazooka swings were unsafe.

If I had to guess St. H looks like it is -4 and shoulder tackle is like -6 or -7.
All of his armored launcher moves looked -5/-8 unsafe. Definitely a lot better than Hulk’s armored normals. You should be able at least space some of them properly to avoid punishment.

[Crimson_Cobra]

anyone got any ideas on who could be the third member for this team?(just a thought right now)

Nemesis
Arthur

[Carpark]

Nemesis moveset write up from Gamespot:

We’ll start with Nemesis. This character was a sluggish brute whose limited mobility options were counterbalanced by some truly devastating damage-dealing potential. His move set may not be as flashy as the game’s other new contender, but its simplicity let us easily piece together a few basic combos after only a few rounds of play. And unlike some of the game’s other heavy hitters, Nemesis packed a few ranged attacks to help make him deadly at any distance.

The fireball input with light attack had Nemesis take a step forward and clothesline the opponent. The medium-attack version bounced the foe off the wall, followed by Nemesis shooting the foe with a horizontal rocket shot. The heavy-attack version also produced a wall bounce, followed by a rocket shot at a 45-degree angle. Using a special attack with this input had the beast fire a horizontal rocket without the clothesline setup.

While that initial step forward on the start up of these moves helped Nemesis get across the screen a little quicker, if it and the opponent were too close to the edge, the rockets would sail under the enemy after the wall bounce. We needed ample room to give our foe time to fall into the rocket’s path. Naturally, against larger targets–such as Hulk–the rocket landed more often, while Arthur and Wolverine constantly missed the explosive.

Nemesis’ dragon punch command produced one of three slams. The light-attack version was an uppercut that knocked the opponent a short distance into the air; medium attack bounced the opponent off the ground; and heavy attack bounced the opponent off the wall. All three were great ways to set up an easy combo, provided the target was in close range. The hulking zombie also had a command grab performed with the half-circle input. Light attack grabbed forward, medium attack grabbed at a 45-degree angle, and heavy attack grabbed vertically in the air. This move felt very similar to Hulk’s command grab but with a bit more reach.

We also noticed a few command normals for Nemesis. Forward and heavy attack fired a tentacle from his palm that reached almost the entire length of the screen, while down and heavy attack made him quickly lurch forward about half a screen. His three assist types were clothesline rocket (same as fireball with heavy attack), launcher slam (the ground bounce version), and rocket launcher (same as fireball with special attack).

Finally, Nemesis had two normal hyper combos and a level three. The first fired three rockets at a downward angle that could scoop enemies up off the ground before having Nemesis slam down on top of them. Second was a series of punches that included super armor against normal attacks on start up. However, we did see Nemesis get knocked out of this move by a few low normals from an opponent who had avoided the first two punches. His level three was a grapple move, so we had to get in close.

[REALPLAYER]

Second was a series of punches that included super armor against normal attacks on start up. However, we did see Nemesis get knocked out of this move by a few low normals from an opponent who had avoided the first two punches.

smdh. man, fuck this shit. i’m vexed. capcom scared of nemesis.
who’s the next reveal? >:(

j/k, still gonna pound ppls lifebars into oblivion.

[Jocelot]

Just cuz I like compiling movesets (the button smiles are so pretty), Gamespot had some hands on time with Nemesis (http://gamescom.gamespot.com/story/6330178/gamescom-2011-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3-updated-hands-on-preview?page=1) and I’ll put it here since I’m cool and have no life.

:qcf::atk: Rocket Clothesline
-:l: Clothesline
- Clothesline into forward rocket shot
-:h: Clothesline into upward rocket shot (45 degree)

:qcf::s: Rocket shot (I guess it tracks…? In Air it tracks n OTGs…?)

:dp::atk: Launcher Slam
-:l: Knocks opponent into the air (mini launcher?)
- Ground bounces
-:h: Wall bounces

:hcb::atk: Tenta-grab
-:l: Forward command grab
- Upward command grab
-:h: Straight up grab

:f::h: Tentacle Lash
:d::h: Shoulder Crush

EDIT: I really don’t get some of these moves. In the Seth walkthrough we see Nemesis fire rockets without the clothesline beforehand on the ground in various angles, yet there is no mention of that in the gamespot movelist.

[Carpark]

EDIT: I really don’t get some of these moves. In the Seth walkthrough we see Nemesis fire rockets without the clothesline beforehand on the ground in various angles, yet there is no mention of that in the gamespot movelist.

Is it that big of deal? Doesn’t look like the most important move and it could easily be :qcb:+:s: or :dp:+:s:.

[Macdaddy487]

Holy shit guys. Did ya’ll see the UMVC3 testing videos on the front page? Nemesis looks really good. Most of his normals are +1 or something on block. Thats a huge plus. And he seems to have good specials, zoning, supers. Nemesis looks like he has no flaws to me, besides the huge hitbox =O

[Kaiten92]

Holy shit guys. Did ya’ll see the UMVC3 testing videos on the front page? Nemesis looks really good. Most of his normals are +1 or something on block. Thats a huge plus. And he seems to have good specials, zoning, supers. Nemesis looks like he has no flaws to me, besides the huge hitbox =O

lol he sounds like Sentinel 2.0…now I’m just waiting for the patch:lame:

[Jamp]

Holy shit guys. Did ya’ll see the UMVC3 testing videos on the front page? Nemesis looks really good. Most of his normals are +1 or something on block. Thats a huge plus. And he seems to have good specials, zoning, supers. Nemesis looks like he has no flaws to me, besides the huge hitbox =O

The only flaw I can see in him is that good zoning characters will give him a hard time, so you’ll be needing assists to cover him up.

Naturally, forcing you to build a team around a good character to make him really effective is hardly a flaw.

[No_Cigar]

The only flaw I can see in him is that good zoning characters will give him a hard time, so you’ll be needing assists to cover him up.

I think he’ll do okay, when he gets in range to use his tentacle normals, air and ground, he can tag the projectile char and any assists they call. Still a beam or a durable projectile would help him. But then again they would help everybody.

Naturally, forcing you to build a team around a good character to make him really effective is hardly a flaw.

Agreed.

[Macdaddy487]

Yep. I’m definitely looking for a Nemesis patch soon A La Sentinel

[OnlyWingedAngel]

How much you want to bet if he gets patched they’re just going to drop his health just like with Sentinel?

[Noble_Cactus]

How much you want to bet if he gets patched they’re just going to drop his health just like with Sentinel?

It’ll probably be that, looking at Capcom’s penchant for health tweaks. Watch him be okay, people whine about some setup that’s easy to punish or avoid, health nerf, no one plays Nemmy except fo the proud, the few.

I really hope this doesn’t happen.

[El_Maiz]

Community: Nemesis is too tall!
Capcompany: HOW 'BOUT A HEALTH NERF?

[Crimson_Cobra]

think any of his assists will be good for arthur?

[Anemone]

The armored clothesline might be good for him since it has to be preformed at a good distance away to combo, and it could help Arthur on his defense.

Rocket Launch assist has a major flaw in that it can be crouched under by quite a lot of people, but that won’t be a problem with Arhuther since his projectiles all sit so low anyway. It could potentially cover his keepaway game nicely.

[Jocelot]

Is it that big of deal? Doesn’t look like the most important move and it could easily be :qcb:+:s: or :dp:+:s:.

Ehh I dunno. I just wanna know what does what.

[Noble_Cactus]

Yeah, I suppose a projectile assist will be necessary to cover Nem as he does his rockets/horizontal tentacle shots. On the flip side, his rocket shot can help cover the area above smaller characters’ heads because he’s so tall (not an AA).

[Substantial]

Yeah, I suppose a projectile assist will be necessary to cover Nem as he does his rockets/horizontal tentacle shots. On the flip side, his rocket shot can help cover the area above smaller characters’ heads because he’s so tall (not an AA).

Yeah, it is a zoning tool for sure…just not a conventional one. If it did hard knockdowns on hit, it’d compensate for what it’s lacking right now imo : p

[OnlyWingedAngel]

think any of his assists will be good for arthur?

His Rocket Assist could play as extra keepaway when Arthur can’t supply it, His Clothesline into Rocket could be used as a GTFO assist. His Slam is a ground bounce and can interrupt a character that gets close and sets him up for free for Arthur.

To the fans of our Big, Handsome, Tentacle, Rocket Launcher-wiedling, Undead buddy

The Butcher of Raccoon City - Nemesis Arcade Stick

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S.T.A.R.S HUNTER - Nemesis Arcade Stick

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Made’em myself in about 4 hours or so. the second one was a bit choppy, not enough space and didn’t come out as I thought it would.
Ironically i’m a pad player.