Bringing Knives to a Fistfight! Ibuki Strategy and Match-up Thread

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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This thread is for Ibuki players who struggle with certain match ups.

Basically you can ask for any character match ups you’d like to practice and any of us play that character can offer that match ups if your main/secondary is(was in vanilla) that character.

I think match footages are usefull as well for this thread. I’ll start recording some of these requested matchups and upload here. Let’s discuss why I needed certain matchups, how I did (either good or bad), and let’s see how much we can improve.

Also, post all character specific matchup strategies and theory fighter tactics here.

Special thanks to dime_x for hosting the original strategy and matchups thread.

General Strategy:

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versus non fireball characters:

zone with kunai, look for an openening to initiate offense with frame advantage.
hit long ranged standing limbs with raida and max range D/F+MK

versus fireball characters:

same with less kunai zoning, use D/F+mk to dodge under projectiles. u2 is probably better versus these guys… learn to do lk and mk command dash> ultra through fireballs… it helps alot.

versus grapplers:

use u1 cause it gives grapplers someting to fear from ibuki that works at ibukis prefferred range as well as a grapplers prefferred range (in your face)

Link to DJ01’s post on what ultra to use in what match-up
http://shoryuken.com/f336/bringing-knives-fistfight-ibuki-strategy-matchups-thread-230091/index57.html#post9156200

Combos:

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standard bnb’s with ibuki are at this time:

  1. cr.lp x2 > st.lp > st.mk xx neckbreaker or tsumuji
  2. cr.lp x2 > lk,mk chain xx NB or tsumuji
  3. cr.lp x2 > st.mk xx NB or tsumuji

and of course her chains.

Glitches:

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none known at this time

AE Changes:

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http://shoryuken.com/f336/ibuki-arcade-changes-251572/

Safe Jumps:

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Legend:

  1. Does cr.lp x2 > st.lp, hit this character when its crouching and does it have to be delayed? (if it has to be delayed it will say “delay”)
  2. Does cr.lp x2 > st.lp connect on this character when they crouch block?
  3. Does the second hit of the medium punch in the lp,mp,hp target combo connect on crouch block?
  4. Does the last hit on the launcher combos wiff versus this character if they are crouch blocking?
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Abel:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

Adon:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

Akuma:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.no
4.no

Balrog Boxer:

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1.no
2.yes
3.no
4.no

Blanka:

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1.no
2.yes
3.no
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

neckbreaker>immediate wiffed cr.mk>j.lk
(credit: CoosCoos)

C.Viper:

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1.no
2.no
3.no
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUP:

  1. mk tsumuji knockdown> wiffed F+lk> jump in heavy attack, option select sweep in case of backdash

vs. Viper: Use U2 in this match. U2 stocked = no more seismo chains for her(she can feint it, but it doesn’t matter since you’ll be reacting to her arm going downward or the yellow flash on her body for ex). Also use U2 to bust throw any blocked normal xx seismo and take that away. Use cr. mk/cr. hk/slide to lower your hitbox ala shotos to go under poorly timed BK’s. Also as mentioned Raida works vs poorly timed bk’s. For huge punishes, use lp-mp-hp chain, link far st. lp, st. mk xx ender since Tsumuji loop doesn’t work on her.

Cammy:

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1.yes
2.no
3.no
4.no

Link to MingoDynasty’s epic post on cammy
http://shoryuken.com/f336/bringing-knives-fistfight-ibuki-strategy-match-up-thread-263515/index14.html#post10537527

Chun-li:

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1.no
2.no
3.no
4.yes

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

  1. neckbreaker>wiffed cr.mk> jumpin heavy (os with sweep for backdash)

  2. mk tsumuji>wiffed st.lk> jumpin heavy (os with sweep for backdash)

Cody:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.no
4.no

Dan:

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1.delay
2.yes
3.no
4.no

prefferred ultra: u1

punishes dan kicks on block.

(credit: Dont Jump)

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

  1. neckbreaker>wiffed cr.mp> JUMPIN MK (hitbox safejump, koryuken will wiff under j.mk allowing ibuki a free punish, dan has answers though)
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Deejay:

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1.no
2.yes
3.no
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

  1. mk tsumuji> wiffed F+lk> jumpin heavy (very hard to time cause ex upkicks are 4 frames, however if you can get this down deejay has no options to beat this with damage, VERY POWERFUL against him, punish with cr.mp xx u2, u1, or 4 hit tc4 xx mk tsumuji)

Dhalsim:

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1.no
2.no
3.no
4.no

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Dudley:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.no
4.no

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dimes note- use ranging to figure out what version of MGB he used… basically if he used it to cover alot of distance you can punish with raida, as long as he is still in range after block.

E.honda:

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1.delay
2.yes
3.no
4.no

El Fuerte:

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Evil Ryu:

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Fei-Long:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUP:

  1. mk tsumuji> F+lk> jumpin heavy

Gen:

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(both styles)

1.no
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUP:

  1. mk tsumuji> F+lk> jumpin heavy

Gouken:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

Guile:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUP:

1.mk tsumuji> F+lk> jumpin heavy

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Guy:

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1.no
2.no
3.no
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUP:

  1. mk tsumuji> F+lk> jumpin heavy

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Hakan:

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1.no
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

Ibuki:

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1.yes
2.no
3.no
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUP:

  1. mk tsumuji> F+LK> jumpin heavy

Juri:

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1.no
2.no
3.no
4.no

Ken:

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1.delay
2.yes
3.no
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUP:

  1. neckbreaker> wiffed cr.mp> jumpin mk ( hitbox safejump)

M.Bison (Dic):

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1.no
2.yes
3.no
4.no

Makoto:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

Oni (Akuma):

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Rose:

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1.no
2.no
3.no
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

  1. mk tsumuji> wiffed F+lk> jumpin heavy (WORKS VERSUS U2, gets rid of one orb, works versus ex drill)

Ryu:

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1.delay
2.yes
3.no
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

  1. neckbreaker> wiffed cr.mp> jumpin mk (hitbox safejump)

also, F+MK and F+hk beat out cr.mk as well.

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Rufus:

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1.delay
2.yes
3.no
4.yes

Sagat:

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1.delay
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

Sakura:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

Seth:

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1.delay (use link timing for all 3 hits)
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

1.mk tsumuji> F+lk> jumpin heavy

T-Hawk:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

  1. mk tsumuji> F+lk> jumpin heavy (beats/blocks srk move, loses to ex 360)

Vega (Claw):

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1.no
2.no
3.no
4.no

Yang:

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Yun:

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Zangief:

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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes
4.no

SAFEJUMP SETUPS:

1.mk tsumuji> F+lk> jumpin heavy (beats or makes wiff both versions of lariat, loses to ex spd)

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reserved 2

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This is a good idea of a thread. I would have liked to play you philly but I only have XBOX. Oh well. I particularly want Ibuki mirrors with really good Ibuki players for now. I play Vega really well.

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after major tournament this weekend I’ll hop on xbox for a while if you still want the match :smiley:

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I need Blanka and Guile practice.

I play a rushdown Rog that’s better than my Ibuki, but nothing awe inspiring.

XBL: Vaccant1

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I can definitely help with the Rufus dive kick pressure; I’ll send you an invite next time I’m on.
If anybody else wants some practice against the fat man on PSN: ilegally

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Any Hakan Zangief users would be Great.(I also Haven’t had any Ibuki Mirror matches so if anyone is up for some mirrors that would be great)

Main & Subs: M.Bison,Ibuki,Sakura

I can also play a decent:Cammy,Cody,And Ken

Feel free to add me PSN:Kirballs1

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I play like 75% of the cast

psn : KomboKaze

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i play most of the cast as well, Psn : Phamd89

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Ah long time no see friend :smiley:
I play on PS3 sry :frowning:

I’m adding your psn right now.

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I need to play against: Balrog, Cammy, Vega, Abel

West coast plz

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European players add me.
I play a decent cammy but west coast will be to far :frowning:

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ggs to court, ace, and the Ibuki host sorry forgot your id… lol
need more dive kick pressure and I think I need bit more bison pressure too lol

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will add next time i log on psn

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Anyone want any mirror matches with Ibuki?