Breathless... SUPER Abel Match Theory Thread

Even good players eventually jump out of Abel’s mixups. That’s when it’s HAPPY BIRTHDAY 2.0 TIME BABY.

There’s no real prediction in this game, even if you see a move some characters can not do anything about it. As for Abel, hes almost broken cheap, very good damage and a strong command grab with an upward attack that leads into a full ultra or another move if you jump away from his command grab, but what makes it worse is the 100% invincible to attack rolls.

Again… I think if you’re relying on using Breathless offensively, you’re missing the point, IMO.

Honestly… if you’re even terribly concerned with actually landing it in any regard, you’re missing the point. I’m gonna upload a video tonight/tomorrow of a match I played last night online. There’s one point in the match that just really made me smile, thanks to Breathless.

No, no, and no. You just suck… sorry?

Using Breathless point blank, cancelling, then TT’ing their jump over is almost as fun as landing breathless.

I’m honestly waiting for a breathless cross over jump cancel ultra and super

That’ll be hot

Yeah, while it’s fun to screw around and land it on people who don’t know it’s properties yet, it’s already easy to see the holes in it’s offensive opportunities.

Is there a way to view replays of specific players through PSN anymore? Looks like they changed a lot about viewing replays.

Haha…can you cancel then TT on reaction?

Edit - Breathless doesn’t seem to work too well on Fuerte, at least for me. When used defensively after he’s already jumping from his run, he always landed behind Abel. It’s possible that by just altering their trajectory from after you activate saves them from landing in front.

this. lol. Ryu jumped and EX tatsu and I quickly canceled, dashed and EX FS to win the match. Can’t remember if I added it to my replay channel thingy or not… but it felt even more rewarding than if I had landed breathless.

as for the replay channel… on xbox you have to have your friend invite you to his “channel” I think to view their stuff. I don’t know… a lot of the replay channel is still kinda confusing to me too. But it doesn’t seem like there is a “friends list” search option unlesss I’m just completely skipping over it somehow.

Is it me or you can’t FS backdashes of smaller characters anymore? I could’ve sworn it was possible against Chun in vanilla, but it doesn’t work in Super. Maybe I was wrong about doing in vanilla in the first place. My copy of vanilla is cracked so I can’t test if it was possible before, lol.

Fwd.mk>>back throw OS breathless is sexy.

After a dash kick u do a late back throw so if they do a reversal u block it, if they throw u tech, if they block u throw, if they neutral jump / backdash u ultra on reaction. Sooo sick

sounds hella sick indeed.

watch out for low short, lol

By the way, my Xbox Gamertag is now active again if any of you want matches.

If you play Abel I will play Ibuki, Juri, Makoto, Cody, or Guy. Mirror matches are not fun.

OK, so this is the fight:

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I didn’t name it, btw… But anyway, it’s not the greatest fight in the world, but at 1:45, Breathless’ value is really shown. After tagging dude with U2 in the first round, in Round 2, he knocks me down, while giving me Ultra around that point. Instead of being thrown in the grinder, like any other Cammy knockdown ever, dude fakes oki pressure, but gets the fuck out of there, letting me wake-up completely unmolested.

That’s Breathless doing that.

That, alone, makes U2 the choice against Cammy, IMO.

hmm so i managed to land cr.hp lp cod fadc ultra in the corner against ryu… i guess its still possible then (someone mentioned earlier that its no longer possible to do so)

edit: even midscreen is possible
edit2: thats it tonight im testing corner ultra vs every chracter in the game and make a table or summin lol

hey just noticed at 1:00, doesnt cannon spike armor break? breathless absorbed it there. im pretty sure it armor breaks in vanilla.

maybe only reversal ones do?

Only reversal armor breaks.

Cammy’s armor break is Spin Knuckle.

About corner ultra

When I tested it, it was on rog and I was using FP COD I didn’t say it wasn’t impossible, I just said you had to delay it.

LP COD seems a lot easier to do (and ryu it was even easier) You guys should test out the corner ultra thing later on rog

And yeah HAV people are scared of U2, but I honestly think it’s because they don’t understand it

ive tested, cr.hp lp cod fadc ultra works on everyone in the corner.

guess i didnt notice you said you used fp since even in vanilla, if its in the corner ppl will use lp cod since it has the quickest startup… of course there were other cases like anti air cr.hp CoD ultra (without fadc) etc…

(right now testin cr.hp ultra in the corner against everyone…)