Breaking Bad

To me it looked as disingenuous as every fake apology he’s ever delivered to Skylar or Jesse, but I’m curious what everyone else thinks. I could just be too skeptical of ol Walty at this point

i finally got off my ass and checked this show out on netflix after it had been on my cue for like…6 mos…

pretty good show and I’ve only peeped out the first episode…

will be watching now

don’t watch this if you haven’t seen yesterday’s episode

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=( Mike

If Mike was the real deal he would have just gotten all those guys killed for trying to snitch in prison.

Or just killed them all himself.

Now he ded. Imagine how Gus would have taken it if there was a possibility they all could break? They’d all have been victored immediately.

Also Mike could have killed Jesse a long time ago, had Walt and Gale cooking, and Gus still alive. GOOD JOB MIKE.

Walt ain’t normal, not anymore. Far from it. Putting it mildly, he doesn’t have a whole lot of humanity left. Notice that he shot Mike–for no other reason than that Mike offended his pride–and his “apology” amounted to, “Wait a second. Due to a crucial piece of information I forgot, the thing that happened to you just now didn’t necessarily have to happen.”

I’m not saying that he didn’t feel genuine remorse on some level, but his remorse is sickly and clinging to life by a thread. Now that Walt’s past the threshold of killing a thoroughly professional ex-associate for purely prideful reasons, I don’t see how even the most delusional fanboys can defend his actions. He’s probably about as Heisenberg as Heisenberg is ever going to get.

You have to hand it to Mike, though. His last action as a living person, literally with his dying breath, was to tell the ever-talkative Walt to shut the fuck up.

What could he possibly have gained from feigning remorse at that point. Walt is not sadistic.

I think the sentiment was quite genuine.

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has this been posted?

I’m pretty sure it has.

Walt is too egotistical to take his own life, he’ll never realize how far beyond justification he has gone, Jesse does, Jesse is still holding onto his humanity, Walt has become this hubris. He’s drunk on power, he wants the world at his fingertips for no other reason than he’s Walt, he’s brilliant, he deserves it. He believes he can take it, and he will, that video was spot on, he’s Scarface, he didn’t start out that way, but he most certainly is now.

The writers are doing everything they can to make me hate Walt, but it’s not working lol. Even that whole symbolism of WW trying to tempt Jesse like the devil tried with Jesus didn’t do it for me. I’ll overlook him killing Mike as temporary psychosis due to rage. Emotions got the better of him that time, I’m sure many of you have done something dumb when you mad at a person. He just happened to have a gun at that moment.

I feel for him, how many of you guys know what it would be like to be absolutely brilliant at something but then ignored and unappreciated? This guy was supposed to be at least a multimillionaire but instead amounted to a teacher on a meager wage, saw everyone of his friends do much better than him. He knows for a fact he was destined for something different, something better. He’s figured out now that cooking and selling meth is his calling in life.

I’m only going to say this one time and I’m done with this particular issue: if you think that Walt is still the hero of this story, there is something about this show that you’re simply not understanding.

And you’d have to be a fucking crack baby to handwave the fact that he killed one of his closest associates just for getting on his nerves.

Hank is the hero. Don’t pander to them Goody, they are stupid as fuck.

Walt is the anti-hero, always has been. What WW did was wrong, it just wasn’t very believable. I know that WW’s character doesn’t do stupid things like kill Mike for pissing him off.

i dont know how to do spoilers…

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if you you havnt seen S5E7

Why did Gretchen leave Walt?

BB is more akin to a morality play or Tragedy than a contemporary Heroes and Villains fiction. It’s about the rise and fall of Walter & Co, not about a particular lead hero battling evils.

As far as Walter killing Mike goes, it seems to me like it was a case of Walt shooting him because he’d been defied too many times, sadly. Yeah he was annoyed about Mike not givibg him the 9 names and felt his authority diminished, but all the tying him up, and failing to recognise him as a legitimate heir to the power Gus wielded were problematic in their relationship. Mike physically overpowered Walter a few times and at some level this was revenge or built up resentment. The final defiance was a last straw, I believe.

I just look at it like Walt at this point has conditioned himself to keep up an act at all times that it doesn’t really matter whether it serves any pragmatic purpose at this point.

damn right. it’s great that Hank isn’t completely incompetent at his job. as an aside, i was watching Starship Troopers again a few weeks ago and saw Hank on there.

found one clip

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also Lieutenant Carver saved Rico and Ibanez at the end he should have yelled his “you do not get to win, shitbird” speech in front of the bugs.

I can see Hank being the one gunning down Walt in the final episode.

Hank: “all this time…you were deceiving me…right under my nose!”

Walt: “say my name”

Hank: “Walt?”

Walt: “You’re God-damn WRONG” busts out M60