Breaking Bad

Impressions of S05E02

[details=Spoiler]Walt has accounted for everything he can foresee. In his mind, which lives in a hermetically sealed universe where everything is defined according to how convenient it is to his ego, he is prepared for every contingency. But there are obviously things he can’t foresee, such as the routing number, and the possibility of those things never even enters his thought process. Mike is absolutely right: it is only a matter of time before something Walt doesn’t know and doesn’t care to prepare for comes back to bring the whole enterprise down.

Loved, LOVED the dialogue play in Merker’s office. “He was there the whole time, right under my nose, and he was a different person entirely.” Are you listening, Hank?

One of the great things about Mike is that his arc is happening almost contrary to that of other characters. Breaking Bad tends to be about how the only thing separating good behavior from bad behavior is circumstance. Walt, for example, has always been Heisenberg, but 50 years of his life were spent in situations that stifled that side of his personality. Change the circumstances, and Walt is truly revealed.

In Mike’s case, we see him in new circumstances that reveal something about him that, until now, has been kept at bay presumably by circumstances of his careful choosing.

I never thought of applying Freudian theory to the Walt/Jesse/Mike scene until Remonster brought it up, but there’s some interesting food for thought there. I would suggest another trichotomous paradigm: strength of character (ethos), emotion (pathos), and logic (logos).

I would say Jesse pretty clearly fills the role of pathos. With Walt and Mike, it gets a little murky. Walt certainly thinks of himself as the ethos of the group. He sees himself as the final authority on everything in his purview, which he has essentially stated outright. But, being that this comes after much rationalization, I would say Walt is logos in spades. Recall that logic doesn’t necessarily have to reach a true conclusion; it just has to make sense by its own rules. That leaves Mike comfortably in the role of ethos, which Walt can only aspire to.

Of course, one of the themes of this show is of becoming the mask. Maybe Walt will realize his position as the ethos of the group, even as Mike’s resolve erodes.

It’s interesting that they seem to be keeping Skyler on the margins for now. She hasn’t really had any agency this season except as a vehicle to demonstrate Walt’s newfound sense of self-security. I don’t mean it’s interesting in and of itself, but it’s interesting in that I doubt I’ll know how to think about her this season until we get a better idea of where she’s going with it.

She’s showing obvious signs of not being merely scared, but of having the sense of no-control helplessness that comes with depression. Maybe her current funk will eventually blossom into an apocalyptic courage that will override the rationalized concerns for her family that have kept her docile so far.[/details]

[spoiler=]Yeah, at first I was half-expecting him to say “Ve vill cut off your JOHNSON.”[/details]

Walter Jr. is great. As the only character who hasn’t filled his own life with rationalizations and other bullshit, his occasional habit of blurting out a reality check to the other characters is pretty refreshing.

Although scenes of him eating or talking about breakfast have reached running gag status by now.

I wonder if anyone else noticed something off with what he found in the Rumba. I think there is one big gaping whole in that whole scene.

Dust and a cigarette. What am I missing?

Wouldn’t a cigarette that has been vacuumed be all torn to shit, and not nearly as new looking if it was surrounded by all that dust (makes it look like it was planted)? Could be somethin, could be nothin. I just was wondering if anyone else noticed it.

Walt has had at least several life-defining moments where he could turn back from his path, and in the criminal world he’s meshed himself in, one chance is already is a luxury. Walt can maybe salvage the lives he’s personally ruined in last shot at redemption at the end of this series, but he is definitely a lost soul.

Jesse’s trust of Walt is the same reason Mike likes the kid, he’s grown to possess character and honor. The problem is- like Mike said, he’s putting all his trust in one man.

You ever use a Roomba? It’s just a suction mechanism. It doesn’t have teeth or blades in there. A whole cigarette with a glass vial in there can viably survive in tact.

Hmmm, well I’ve never used one. Well shit… all I know is that Mike is a beast.

A tossaway observation: looks like Skyler finally found the Raisin Bran Crunch.

It says it right on the box!

…aaaaand Walt proves he doesn’t need Skyler to send creepy chills down my spine.

Walt is beyond redeemable at this point. And I like the fact that Walt was watching “That” movie at home, very fitting considering what type of man he’s become.

Yeah; I think my guts actually slithered around a bit when he was working Jesse, and later, talking to Marie.

Last Man Standing

Awakening

[details=Spoiler] I think finally Jesse is seeing who Walt really is as a person. Pinkman always knew Walt had his egotistical tendencies, but now he’s seeing the darker side of him- Heisenberg. This is further proof of what I’ve felt all along, Jesse will probably be the only collaborator who can tell this sordid tale.

That being said, I loved the scene where Jesse and Walt were meticulously and professionally making meth. Something oddly heartwarming about them working again, and the fact that Walt and him now speak on equal terms made it all the more… richer.

Skyler actually beseeching to Walt and not dictating was really something. Now that she knows that her husband is a killer her mind is uneasy, to say the least. I do not pity her.

When Walt was making such elaborate fibs to Marie on the fly, then ate the apple afterwards, I actually felt that red, glowing goat horns should’ve sprouted from his cranium.

“Just because you shot Jesse James, doesn’t make you Jesse James.”

It may not come soon, but R.I.P. Mike. Walt will not gloss that shit over, ever.
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I think “Hindenburg” is a more appropriate moniker for Walt.

I don’t know.

Spoiler

Walt’s on this ego trip and maybe he thinks he can put Mike in line somehow. I REALLY don’t think he can, though. He’ll get fucked up trying.

Welp, that was chilling.

Spoiler

The opening scene of the season is coming together now. I can only see Walt doing one of two things: a.) he’s going to kill Mike or b.) he’s going to kill Mike’s guys. He’s gotten very greedy lately and it’s costing him good judgement. I thought what Mike is doing makes sense since you can’t just have an illegal operation and think you can do it all on your own. He’s even bucking at paying Goodman, though Goodman is a chicken shit. Either way, it goes bad for him and he has to run away. Goodman has the power to give him an all-new identity so he probably used him to get that ID he used at the Denny’s and hence can’t get rid of him yet. I can see where he makes a power play and Goodman tells Jesse who really poisoned the kid.

Skylar is going to be the one to rat him out. She’s terrified, but she’s more afraid of her children being around Walt. She knew the message Walt was sending with Scarface. “Hey, I’m the boss now. This is what can happen. Just so you know.” She won’t hold it together much longer and for Hank’s sake, she’ll rat the dude out even if it means she has to go to prison.

dude has a rat in the group. going to spill beans. family will leave him, mike dead, jesse dead. shoot out in hotel scar face style to end things

Man, I loved this episode…

Hazard Pay

Spoiler

It was just so…business orientated. Loved seeing them come up with the new meth lab idea. Now business will literally will be about location, location, location lol. I know Walt was pretty bad this ep, but I couldn’t help but empathize with him. I hate looking at my paycheck and seeing how much is taken out for taxes. Seeing his $300k become $100k was gut wrenching. At the same time, I have even more respect for Mike now. Dude looks out for his people (and funny how the laundry guy in jail was just another man worried about his family).

I hope Walt survives all of this. Screw haters, he’s my hero along with Gordon Gekko lol

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Other high points:
-back in the lab; it’s like watching How It’s Made
-Skinny Pete with the mad keyboard skills
-return of Badger…for some reason I thought he died

^Just because we don’t like a person because of his grossly evil and greedy actions doesn’t make us haters. I think we probably all loved Walt in the beginning but his winning streak has left him cold. Walt could easily get every character on the show killed because of actions. I mean it practically almost happened before am I right?

Mike and Jesse and hell even Saul are still in this dirty business but they haven’t lost sight of keeping some of their dignity intact.

Evil and greedy? Spoken like a true hater. lol just playing. I’m just talking about people who get mad that people can root for the “bad guy” in tv shows.

Skinny Pete could be making more bank than all of them combined…what a waste, lol.

Just finished the first four seasons in a week. I absolutely love this show and it’s probably my second favorite series (not including comedies) of all time.

Haven’t really read a lot of this thread yet, but one remark I took issue with a few pages back was the fact that Walt’s transformation was “unrealistic.” That is entirely untrue and it only takes simple attention to minor details to recognize that. This is a man who was on the brink of death and so desperate to not burden his family with what he thought was the cost of his inevitable death that he actually considered refusing treatment all together. This was a man whose genius went unrewarded as he saw his “friends” showered with an embarrassment of riches on the back of his work. A man so proud that not only did he refuse to take handouts and instead put his pride above his ethics and resorted to crime, but when it came down to it he couldn’t even stomach the idea of his hard earned cash being made to look like charitable donations even though it was the biggest “gimme” laundering scheme one could ask for.

You see all this come into effect at various points in the series, for instance in the first season where he’s coaching the random dealer on what he should buy and how to be smart about it… before inevitably telling him to stay off his turf after claiming that he was out of the game. He often acts out of the same desperation that led him to this lifestyle to further protect those he cares about, whether it’s his family or Jesse. His overwhelming pride oozes through all the issues between him and Jesse where they fight over his formula, and when Gale is accredited with being Heisenberg. But at the same time, he’s always knocked down a peg when he has to come to the reality that his plan worked too well and he’s not only going to have to live with his decisions and actions for much longer than expected, but he’s also going to have to deal with the fact that after all the sacrifices he’s made for his family those same actions are what’s causing him to slowly lose touch with his loved ones. He constantly has to deal with whether it was all worth it, while continuing to lead a stressful secret life that causes a divide between his entire family. But he has no easy out anymore and selling meth, which was the original path he chose to protect his family, is now his only option to protect his family. It shows that this sort of life isn’t just something you can dabble in for a multitude of reasons, and especially when you dive this deep it’s hard to pull yourself back out at will without coming out unscathed. His choice causes more harm than good, but for a substantial period of time he’s stuck in this hell of an existence while trying to find a resolution to it all that won’t make it all have been for nothing - either losing his family for good, having nothing to show (money) for his endeavors, or dying or getting caught and leaving a legacy behind that he would not be proud of.

All of this plus all the things he has to do that’s tied to his criminal life serve to mold his character. Besides maybe Lost, there has not been another show that shows more accurate character development across the board. The only thing that bothers me is how Skyler goes from “omg I hate you, you are a drug dealer” while simultaneously aiding Ted in committing tax fraud, to adulteress, to another player in Walt’s criminal life without Walt so much as rubbing it all in her face.

Also, fuck that divorce lawyer and Gus probably had the most gangsta death of all time /fixes tie