Walt cares about Jesse like a slave master cares about his favorite slave.
Gives Pinkman two bags of cash so he can later throw it all out of a car.
I think he sees him as more of a son than Walter Jr. to be honest. I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that when Walt. Jr came up to speak to him at the pool the first thing he did after was pick up the phone and try call Jesse.
Walt has done a lot of stuff he just flat out didn’t need to do for Jesse. He could have easily let those gang bangers kill him and it wouldn’t have caused him all the problems with Gus and his hands would have been relatively clean.
Remember Walt’s family is a major motivator. He considers Jesse like family, and has said as such, and I believe him because he certainly hasn’t just taken the easy way out the many times it has been presented to him in regards to Jesse.
Even letting Jesse’s girlfriend die, he saw him shooting up heroin. It wasn’t just her driving a wedge between them over the money Walt owed Jesse, Walt believed he’d be healthier without her and he paid for Jesse’s rehab.
Jesse was better without jane. Who wanted to steal money to get more crack.
I’ve got a speculation regarding the ending that Walt will pass his money onto Jesse even after their fallout.
He’s desperate to have his work not mean nothing and I think he still sees Jesse as family as betrayed as he feels by him.
Agreed. At this point, Jesse is the only person Walt even begin to depend on after saving him. Jesse, being like the horribly written character he is will probably hold his end of the bargain. In “granite state” it was strongly foreshadowed in the conversation with Ed that Walt needs a person he can trust to leave his family money. Jesse will deliver the money.
I don’t think Jesse is poorly written and I like Aaron Paul’s performance, Jesse as a character though I can’t just side by.
He’s tragic, but from the very start he’s been a giant fuck up, he took the money for the caravan even after Walt “blackmailed,” him and got pissed at a titty bar with it and showed no remorse.
Jesse has been one giant fuck up through the whole show, he just has a couple of redeeming qualities like his loyalty and seems moral when placed next to Walt.
To me he’s always been the main antagonist in the show and it has been frustrating watching Walt adopt him and Jesse not give a shit in return. I think those words Jane’s father said to Walt at the bar about sticking by family regardless of their faults really got to Walt in regards to Jesse.
Todd is one of the most compelling characters in TV history, because he’s able to divorce his genuine kindness from his ruthlessly robotic pragmatism perfectly. Unlike the traditional psychopath Todd is able to somewhat feel emotions, he cares enough about people to want to put them at ease and accommodate them even during distressing situations like when he gave Jesse ice cream or when he tried to calm Skylar down while threatening Holly, hell he convinced Jack to let Jesse live. Todd doesn’t behave the way he does solely for personal benefit nor is he a man without a conscience trying to mimic his perception of sympathy because it’s a foreign concept to him, to declare him as that would be ignorant and dismissive of who he really is. He’s able to turn on and off his conscience at will like the flip of a switch, he’s the personification of blue sky, simultaneously a distilled Hesisenberg and Walter White with the ego of both filtered out. Unlike the monstrous hybrid that is Walt/Heisenberg, Todd is able to keep the two sides separated at all times, so whether it’s in thought or action he’s purer than any meth Walt’s ever cooked (and not just because he’s an aryan).
It’s for this reason that I’ve never been creeped out or horrified by Todd as the rest of you have, besides his first appearance which was when I didn’t understand his character. Now I understand he only commits a crime when it suits him to do so pragmatically, he doesn’t have an ounce of malice in him, he’s icier than a blonde female in a Hitchcock pic during a blizzard because he chooses to be. I’m not saying in real life I’d be caught in the same dimension as someone like Todd nor do I condone his heinous acts, it’s just that understanding what triggers his criminal behavior reduces his ferocity, hell I’m sure he’d be a fun guy to hang out with as long as your existence never hinders any of his goals.
Hence my analogy. There is no doubt that the slave master looks upon his favorite slave with a sense of the paternal. But he also treats that slave in a way that no real father would ever treat his son. Yes, he looks at Jesse as a son. He also looks at him as a tool to be used, as an idiot (and an insecure genius always makes sure to keep an idiot close at hand), and as an obstacle. Walt, not being particularly introspective, doesn’t waste a second examining or trying to resolve his contradictory feelings about Jesse, or, for that matter, the contradictory ways in which he treats him.
Plus–as I alluded to earlier–Jesse, along with the White family, is Walt’s morality pet. He can reassure himself that he’s good by technicality as long as he’s good to them.
As for Walt doing right by Jesse by letting Jane die, that is a rationalization of psychopathic proportions.
And as far as predictions I think Walt will survive somehow but regardless of how it ends everyone can take comfort in the knowledge that BB has never failed to surprise and excite us so I doubt it will start to now.
I was rationalizing Jane from the perspective of Walt. He didn’t do it to hurt Jesse, and I believe in the fly episode we saw that he felt genuine guilt over it. Walt killed two birds with one stone when he told Jesse about it, he got it off his chest and he drove the knife in because he blamed Jesse at that point for Hank’s death.
I do believe Walt has a heart. I think he’s just had to make so many compromises to his morals and integrity in order to survive he’s had to make compromises in how he cares for others.
Am I keep gonna have to keep an eye out for you on the news channels?
Have you seen a therapist?
Do you have minor disagreements that end in blood, and then apologize afterwards?
You may ask what could I be implying, but just know I’m asking out of loose curiosity…
I’m worried I’ll miss the meme more than the actual show.
Can someone link the Walter/Jesse reservoir standoff pic? Can’t find it here would love just to get a look at it again thanks.
of all the lives ruined I feel most sad for Saul, nobody is safe in gilligan land
I got you
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Malcom in the middle has become much needed viewing
Also walt’s going to die like gus. Half of him burned beyond recognition.
Gus the fuckin’ TERMINATOR!
I just started watching the show 3 weeks ago and finally got caught up to the current episode just in time for the series finale. Favorite scene: The Great Shanking of 2013
I think Walt’s gonna survive the conflict and then eventually die of cancer, but the only person I can see him leaving the money to now… is Holly, because everybody else has problems with accepting it at this point.
I hope Walt survives. The show is going to lose roughly 99% of my respect if that piece of shit Jesse survives. Its already giving me bad vibes like in Bad Detective when Keitel fucking lets the 2 rapists go with a bag of money then dies in the final scene.
I dont need another ending like that, the only bad guy I want to see walk is Walt because he is more than just some chump who fell awry and ending up making drugs.
It was fate, fate itself choose him to become like some kind of angel of death to bring true justice to the unworthy. All of these flawed characters are now either dead or running scared and its proximity with Walt that brings the doom.
Think about it, every major villian/anti hero from the past 5 seasons would have been happy go lucky scumbags making their buck if not for Blue Meth showing up, and their greed for more. Their greed brought them inadvertenly closer with Walt and whatever way fate chooses Walt ends up killing them or being somewhat responsible for it. The Salamancers and Gus, Regional kingpins are dead because of Walt.
We only got the Ayrans to die, and they will, we just need hope the Schwartzs die peotically (and i still think the ricin is for them) and ofcourse Jesse needs to answer for his crimes. He just cost a little boy his mother, his weakness cost Hank and Gomez their lives as well. He knows Walt. Hes already dead.
Saul will survive, hes not clean but in a way he helps people no matter their moral/ethical backgrounds to overcome the corrupt justice of US law, so in a way hes one of the good guys. (Redundant point if hes getting a spin off but we dont know when it will be chronologically yet)