oh shit that’s too good. Anyways anyone gonna throw down money on the chambers/klitschko fight this weekend?
Unless you’re dropping money on Chambers I wouldn’t bother; Wladimir is the 8-1 favorite in this fight.
He’s passed all his drug tests, and has never shown any dirty piss during his career. You are hopping on a false accusation, trying to spray away the cop out and actually make it look reasonable. Please Bio, the whole “Manny takes steroids” is just a cop out rooted from arrogance. This has nothing to do with invasion privacy, this is about taking blood on random on call days. It doesn’t matter if they have cut off days, the whole request was still insane regardless. Even if Manny declined on the Olympic testing, i don’t see why Floyd needs to cancel the fight, since Manny would be tested after the fight.
Thurst: Manny agreed to take drug testing before and after the fight, that is already good enough for consideration. You floyd fans just jump in the whole claims made from the Mayweathers and in the down end there really is no basis as to why Manny should or to even be suspicious of it and also ignore that blood testing would be done after their bout. You are so up on his dick that you are actually arguing about the Olympic testing being rational, it’s idiotic. It was a weird demand from some one who has been talking to much shit. The only feeble minded floyd fans will actually cling to PBF’s suspicion of Manny taking Drugs, just to cover up the fact that Floyd was being ridiculous. You just don’t want to admit it. In reality, Manny is the #1 - and he reached it fairly, you idiots just wish for ways to make your Floyd look like a non ducker and straight up champion; i used to deny all the “Floyd is ducking” stuff before, but what he did was a solid cop out.
“That?s the thing he does for his whole career. He run from the really good boxer kind, he choose the others. I don?t know how the people who know about boxing put him in the first place in the pound for pound champion.”
- Cotto
Next. On Mosley, that makes sense now. It was odd at first for PBF not pushing this type on Mosley, it would make PBF look like a fool if he didn’t push on Mosley. Mosley really can’t afford to say no to it, because he is a known steroid user; and they found EPO in his body with the traditional testing - by testing after the fight (which again, Manny agreed to do with Mayweather). So there is a basis and rational reason for canceling a fight with Mosley if so Mosley declined. Manny agreed for testing in the proper time frame, so there was no problem for Mayweather here.
lol you’re either trolling or an idiot, more than likely a combination of both though.
LOL thurst, you’ve been dick riding your favorite boxer forever. Floyd ducked and back out, there is nothing to be confused about there. Manny Pacquiao is a clean boxer and giving blood after the match was fair enough. You fan boys know jack shit about Olympic testing, and you can’t blame Manny for refusing that. Manny agreed anyway for giving blood before and after the fight, not on Floyd’s random time set ups. It’s always the Floyd fans who pretend to know yet give out idiotic statements just for the sake of covering up the fact that PBF is over rated and a coward.
If Pacquiao accepted the drug test the fight would have gone through. If Floyd wanted to duck out he could simply refuse to pay the 2 million per extra pound, refuse a fight date of March. It’s funny because each of these demands Roach said ‘‘Mayweather will not accept’’.
If you have millions at your disposal and you know when a drug test is, you can mask it. I respect the fact that Manny has a right to refuse the drug test but he was the one who walked away from the table when reasonable terms were put in front of him.
Let me tell you how stupid it sounds to claim Manny is Juicing with no valid proof. He has not been caught, period end of discussion stop riding unverified claims your not a desktop detective so seriously just chill on that shit. Its not different then being a conspiracy theorist. If he was a juicer and they found that out every fight he has every fought would be thrown out the window and he will eat shit much like tiger woods did, he would be lit on fire by the media and wont be able to live it down. Till then quit wasting energy on Accusations. You know false accusations used to be popular in the past too, remember Salem witch trials? just a bunch of fucking tards pointing the finger at each other with no actual valid proof but hey fuck it lets burn folks anyhow because we Feel thats that truth. Grow the fuck up already and let the events take their place if it will happen.
If they say Olympic testing is better, great so when the “Commission” actually decides to employ this procedure nobody should worry about it but until then there is absolutely shit anyone can do. I don’t think Mayweather should be allowed to dictate shit and i believe as current champion Manny has a right to decline any sort of shit he considers absurd. I don’t think Manny should have any power either to create rules that supersede an athletic commission and so far he hasn’t expressed interest in doing so.
While i would love to see this fight the politics ruined this fight for me and it ruined the boxing community in my opinion everyone is evolving into these fucking grunts.
I find this statement to be ironic, since a lack of proof indicates either that the guy is legit, or the guy has not been caught, as you say. Is that the reason for a different procedure to testing? Perhaps. Who knows? Again, I claim not to know motivations.
And yet again, more people dismissing Olympic testing without explaining why (instead going to the effect of LOLHAHA). Similarly, they might also uphold the standard tests done without any reasoning behind it. Arguments like these irritate me. :sad:
Let me tell you how hilarious it is to just loop shit over and over. Your just wasting your godamn time.
Edit: Actually fuck this im going to break this down for you because i think your statement isn’t in anyway enlightening.
First off we can accuse anyone of anything, and then blanket it with a stupid “Guilty” before proven innocent statement and it will just continue over and over and over.
I never said Olympic testing isn’t the way to go, I think it’s nice actually because then it keeps stupid things like this from going on and on, but until the commission adopts it save your fucking breath or actually lobby at the athletic commission with all these other people who feel its the way “All” fights should be conducted and then there will be a point.
This shit only came up because of this particular fight. Its an issue all of a sudden and its just ugly no matter how you slice it or whos side you choose. NOBODY is winning SHIT from this argument its just a fucking dog chasing its tail and its accomplished nothing. I don’t see any changes in the athletic commission being raised i don’t see folks rallying to push this testing into becoming standard. NO its just for Fucking Manny because Mayweather wants this shit and well so what, hes not the commission boo hoo just 1 fucking fight and this shit exploded.
Its been talked about numerous times in this thread…Here are some cons…
*Random Drug testing means, random testing…It could be in the middle of the night, while you’re sleeping/resting from a heavy workout…You can be at the gym doing your training & they can interrupt you & make you take the test right there. They take your blood 7 days straight if they wanted too! Seeing how boxing involves your arms, that’s where they take the blood from…Shit can get some kind of infection before the fight…
That’s why its best to do it right after the fight.
You also have to think of it mentally too, not everyone likes needles. I know right after i get blood drawn, i feel weird as fuck. I cant even masturbate that day…
Why should Pacquiao accept that kind of demand? First of all, Pacquiao already promised a testing AFTER the fight, so there is no hiding there. Second of all, it seems that none of you are aware of how Olympic blood testing is done. It is random and there is no control over the time. Why should Manny be alright with having needles sticking in him randomly (during training, after training, sleeping…) is it unreasonable to decline? Manny didn’t walk out, it was floyd who canceled the fight due to that demand not being accepted. Having a drug test after the fight is already a great negotiation because can be hidden.
Olympic Blood testing was not reasonable on a man who has not used Juice in his career. Look into how OBT is done before actually calling it reasonable. The original request was just a blood/drug test, which was agreed on… time after floyd tries to make more into that request by making it a random day of needles being injected in you testing. Have you guys ever given blood before? Do you know the weakening feeling you get after it? Imagine if that shit is being done in random days during your training, cutting in your sleep or even short moments before the fight? No shit many wouldn’t agree. There is no reason for him to be going through that. PBF just can’t admit that the power he saw was straight up real and authentic.
Despite the fact that random is always mentioned with Olympic drug testing, I didn’t know there was no control over the time… Thanks for sharing that piece of information.
I didn’t say Pacquiao should accept those demands. If you can’t reach an agreement in a contract naturally you have the option of walking your separate way.
It isn’t actually debatable who walked away from the contract. Pacquiao did end of. He refused the offers of the contract. There isn’t anything inherently wrong with walking away from a contract as at times the terms are unreasonable. Mayweather’s request wasn’t unreasonable, as I have said before you have your suspicions before the fight is the best time to rid them.
It’s unfortunate that they couldn’t reach an agreement.
You realise how retarded this is? The argument is that the current drug tests that showed he was clean are inadequate ( which they are people have slipped through the net).
Yes, I have had blood taken before, I played a 50 over cricket game later that day. Further more there is video footage of Pacquiao having blood taken during training sessions. Also Floyd it’s not a case of Floyd not admitting his power/stamina it’s a case of him being suspicious.
ya i understand that, but as i said the “suspicious” attitude is just the arrogance. That is all. Floyd has made statements about Pac being easy work, unversatile… but he gets suspicious? That was weird… So all the smack floyd did was obviously his ignorance and absolute denial. Pacquiao didn’t cancel the fight due to that disagreement, Floyd did. Pacs camp tried to reason out to continue the fight with giving tests just after the fight. So there was really no problem to have it canceled. Why is Mayweather “being carefull” anyway if he’s been saying that Pacquiao would be easy? Floyd did duck out. Both Floyd Sr/Jr got their suspicion because Pacquiao is that good and they just don’t want to admit that.
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edit: i think floyd will win against Mosley, Mosley can’t handle PBF’s scientific style of hit and run. We need a Pacquiao/Mayweather fight!
here’s a fact: if floyd really wanted a serious/legit random blood testing, why’d he offer a 14-day[to the day of the fight] gap no random blood testing? wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of being random? if pacquiao’s really cheating, he could have accepted this offer and still cheat in that span/gap of no random blood testing.
another fact: blood testing is unreliable. since it was used, only 1 athlete has caught using ped. that’s why drug testing agencies are funding a new type of testing that is using urine as samples.
to gunner: that video footage you saw pac having his blood taken was 24 days prior to the fight, and that’s the last thing he offered to pbf, 24-days[prior to the fight] no random blood test.
Not sure how scientific pop shotting and throwing 2 punch combinations over a 30 minute period is. He’s one of the fastest and he knows it so he uses it. Pretty much all there is too it. He’s basically playing a game of tag when fights.
The more I see shit like this is the more I think people are completely oblvious to the fact that boxing is a risky sport. He could very well think the fight is easy work but shit has a chance of happening and he could get seriously hurt in the ring. If I’m putting my health on the line I’d want to be sure that the person I’m up again is clean.
Also you’re going to have to point out the ignorance and absolute denial. There’s a difference between denying something and being suspicious of it.
No Pacquiao cancelled/walked away from the fight due to that disagreement, he didn’t accept the terms placed in front of him. The careful part ties into what I said above.
Boxing is a sport where you punch you hit your opponent hard, shit has a chance of happening. If you’ve ever been involved in a competitive sport you’d know that any freak injury/loss suffered is easier to deal with if the person you fought was clean. Compare the Michael Watson vs Eubanks aftermath with the Billy Collins jr aftermath.
Apparently you don’t know what a fact is. I’ll give you a hint it doesn’t start with ‘‘if’’ as that leads to a hypothetical scenario.
And?
the fact was inside the question… come on, don’t stray from the topic… don’t give me that grammar/whatever superiority bullsh*t… the fact is floyd offered a 14-day gap of no random blood testing…
and what? is that all you can say…?
after spewing all that sh*t… pls…
lol i like how i’m dickriding when i haven’t said anything (positive or negative) about floyd or pac in the last 2 pages.
14-days before the fight was the cut off for the random testing. PBF’s camp made a point of saying that they could use a different agency, but it had to random after pac’s camp via arum offered (and then took back the offer) of using the agency used by the NBA/NFL/MLB.
??? what are you trying to say?
floyd vs manny will happen at the end of the year. this is all hype.