It’s all hype Mayweather Vs Pacquaio will happen at the end of the year, and to the guy that said amir will face pacman that wont happen anytime soon because roach wont allow it.
I saw the UK coverage so I missed this.
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Shit genuinely made me laugh out loud. I just have little respect for the majority of boxing pundits out there. Guy couldn’t contain himself, what’s funny is he only hit the gloves.
Ah no, i’m not. Thurst, it’s obvious that you are a PBF fan because seriously you’ve been defending PBF constantly, i am a PBF fan as well but there is no denying that he backed out. You are seriously trying to side with their claims in order to justify PBF’s demands of OLYMPIC blood testing. Jesus, you’ll defend Floyd regardless of how obvious it is, use your common sense instead of your fan boyism. Regardless of what "experts have said about peds (i really want a credible article on this); Manny still has shown no signs of any drug use. Floyd demanded that Pacquiao for an olympic blood test - a blood test that has never been done on any boxer in history.
Olympic-style drug testing, involves random blood and urine tests. In Boxing, blood testing has always been done before and after the fight. The Olympic blood testing was outrageous, and seriously the only logical reason for this demand is because they couldn’t believe what they saw in Pacquiao. You sticking to excuses for him is almost like dick riding.
Come on thurst, your defending of floyd not ducking is seriously illogical. Pacquiao agreed for blood testing AFTER the fight, just right after. There is no way any drug use can be hidden at that time… and besides, the regular style of testing in boxing is good enough. The demand of an Olympic testing just shows that floyd found out what the fuck he was fighting against. Why didn’t Floyd request that from JMM, or for his next fight, Mosley? He would demand for an Olympic Drug testing for Pacquiao - a man who has never pissed dirty, yet not for Mosley? hmmm… that’s a bit odd.
Mayweather is the real reason why time was wasted on Sat night, this could have been a Pac/PBF match.
Why would a boxer not doing the Olympic blood testing before have to do with anything? That’s not an argument for or against olympic blood testing, that is just a fact. (Similarly, a test that has “always been used” is just that, another fact).
As for your claim of Olympic blood testing is outrageous, how is it so? (Since you can question how Olympic blood testing is beneficial to boxers, this is a necessary point that you need in your argument)
As for his motivations, this is all a matter of perspective. You can argue that he raised an “outrageous demand” to “back out”, and you can also argue that he is “suspicious of” Manny. This is his doing and again, wholly outside the point. Similarly, you can also say that Pacman is “refusing to give in to one request” and that “if he is so clean, why is he backing out?” Again, a matter of perspective, since we don’t know the motivations.
Ok, so hypothetically speaking, let’s say PBF beats Sugar Shane and the Pac-man/PBF fight happens.
2 scenarios: What happens to everyone’s opinion of Manny if Pac-man wins this fight?
If PBF wins the fight, what happens to him?
IMO Pac-man, because of the hype surrounding him, becomes something bigger than boxing if he wins. He becomes some sort of icon. If PBF wins, he’ll go down as the best boxer ever in his weight class. Hell, a lot of people already think that of him, and a good argument can be made.
Either way, I can see one or both of them retiring after that fight. if he wins, Manny’s got a lot of other things going on in his life. PBF has always said he’s wanted to retire while he’s still able to spend some of the money he’s made. If the fight is close and entertaining, maybe there could be a rematch or something for the ridiculous payday it would be sure to make, but other than that, I don’t see where either fighter would go after this megafight. It would be anti-climactic.
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I don’t know how anyone could justify not taking stricter drug testing. Do you realize what you are arguing against? Especially when there have been so many cheaters in Boxing?
The Blood Testing was already a part of Mayweather’s contract in order to fight him, so it’s not like he just came up with it to avoid a fight.
Now again everything around the beginning of December made it sound like Freddie Roach and Team Pacquiao was okay with blood testing.
How could anyone from Team Mayweather know that, following early December Team Pacquiao would come up with a million reason’s as to why they shouldn’t take blood tests?
Arum and Freddie Roach even did everything they could to discredit blood testing.
If Team Mayweather could predict that all of this would happen, then I’m going to fly to Las Vegas and ask them dudes for lottery numbers.
There is nothing to be suspicious about, first of all. It was outrageous; the demand was insane… it was only demanded to Many and no body else. Floyd has been talking too much about Pac being easy work, yet for some reason he demands this for the fight? What’s wrong with just the regular blood testing? It was obvious that Floyd was being careful now, why would you be that careful over someone you claimed to be easy work? It was a cop out, regardless of how you want to defend PBF. It is what it is. This shit leads all the way back to Hatton/Pacquiao, in where FLoyd sr trash talked about Pacquiao being a Mule and fighting completely amateurish; the fight happens, and Hatton gets fucked up in 2 rounds. After, Floyd sr starts his excuses that Manny is taking something, because he could not believe it. It’s all arrogance that is rooting their whole “suspicion”. An Olympic testing being unused in boxing has everything to show to credit it a ridiculous demand in the point of view of the Boxer.
You guys are just bandwaggoning PBF regardless of such an obvious cop out. PBF disappointed every body with that nonsense, it’s only you floyd fans that try to make that shit look reasonable.
lord 
It was just blood testing that was originally on the contract, but not the Olympic one. The Olympic one was demanded a time after. Why in the hell is it a problem for a clean Boxer to have problems against having his blood taken out randomly? There are some stamina and physical risks with that. They even tried to negotiate with being tested before and/or after the fight, and that is already assuring. LOL at you trying to reverse the rationality. It’s logical that Mayweather wasn’t comfortable going against Manny with out that heavy blood testing procedure. I mean, from the Past he’s been saying that there are antidotes in defeating Pacquiao - that he’s been KOed and out boxed; that he isn’t in his league nor where his performances better, so why does he demand Manny to take an Olympic blood testing? That doesn’t make sense. You here replied trying to bring rationality into Floyd’s case. Is it because after the whole contract deal, he finally sat down, and saw the tapes of Manny wacking much bigger guys at high speed?
Pacquiao is 100% a clean boxer, this whole “he’s probably using steroids” is invented out the arrogance of the Mayweathers because they don’t want to acknowledge the fact that the people they underrate with talk are actually above all their smack. Why isn’t Mosley being requested this, or why hasn’t Clotey requested this for Manny? You trying to bring out rationality and excuses for PBF (or even trying to show Manny in the bad side) is plain fan boyism.
Ah, I never said it was suspicious. I said that the perception is that it was suspicious, just as how you have a perception that the test is unecessary as opposed to regular blood tests (again, you didn’t justify why regular blood testing is fine OR why Olympic blood testing is flawed, you just said, twice, “It’s obvious that the test is a work to cop out of the fight,” which, note, is a similar argument to “It’s obvious that this demand is completely reasonable.” Neither answers anything).
Why would you wanna be careful over someone who is easy work? Why, to make work easier of course. Do note that this “answer” answers nothing, just like how your question asked nothing, since, yet again, we’re theorizing based on our perception of the news. And to give another “answer”, just because something is easy, doesn’t mean that it hurts to be careful. But again, this goes nowhere.
Do note that I did not and still do not bring up any arguments any time you lay the blame on PBF for the big fight being cancelled. I am merely pointing out the flawed arguments in this topic if they haven’t been addressed by someone else, that’s all.
Mosley was requested to take Olympic style random blood & urine drug tests. These tests will be overseen by the USADA. Both Mayweather and Mosley have agreed to take these tests.
As everyone has already stated, the Pacquiao vs Clottey fight was awful.
Jees we still on that Pac vs PBF.
We all knew what was gonna happen once PBf asked for that type of blood testing. Its simple pbf has a lot to lose he doesn’t want to take the chance of getting beat by somebody who could be cheating right? we’ve seen Pac lose b4, we’ve never seen mayweather lose.
Its not like he said yo pac has to be tested but i dont want to be tested. He ( pbf ) would take the exact same test.
If Im clean and Im Pac that would motivate me beyond belief!! Oh this dude has the nerve to say Im on something.
Tell him i’ll take whatever type test he wants me to take, then when we get in the ring i’ll totally detroy him then say what the fuck now! take your L like a man Im clean I beat you because Im the better fighter than you.
Both camps played games.
Pac camp wanted cash in exchange for mayweather being over weight. ( which they agreed on)
In return Mayweather’s camp said ok–then take all these blood tests for us then. ( which Pac’s camp turned down, because Pac feels “weak” after he gives blood.)
Idk Im upset because the fight didn’t get worked out. Why did Pac’s camp rush to get another fight for Pac?
Mayweather ain’t fighting nobody. Is he gonna fight Mosley?
I can see both sides of the coin, Pac take the damn tests wtf does it matter.
When somebody bluffs you what do you do if you know you are better than them?
You just not gonna prove them wrong or shut them up.
Trust me if Pac said ok, then beat mayweather we are talking a historic night!!
He would’ve showed everybody that he’s the best p4p.
But his reasoning for not taking the same test that mayweather was gonna take doesn’t raise an eyebrow?
Like hmmm why didn’t pac take the test? Is he in fact hiding something?
I never looked @ Pac as a cheater or somebody who would take peds. He has god given talent but after this that question comes to mind. Like damn you didn’t take these blood test because you felt/feel that disrespected?!
So i thought peeps got into fights over being disrespected?
Like i said IDk but its crazy to not find fault with both camps. Way blame pbf only? I think the crazier request was the money for the pounds. what was it like 5 mili every pound over weight?
Oh well hopefully we get this fight by year’s end.
Im glad Mosley is accepting the Olympic drug testing, i dont think Pacman’s team will refuse it now. Really though, i hope Mosley does win as im sure this would be an amazing more entertaining fight due to Pacman/Mosley style…Sadly even if Mosley does win he would still have to do a rematch w/ PBF due to the contract clause.
At first i thought PBF could easily beat Manny if they fought in March. After seeing the Clottey fight, Pacman has a great chance in winning. He has grown to be a complete boxer & actually used his head. His angles maybe too much for Mayweather…Only problem i have with Manny is lack of defense at times. I think this was actually be a decent fight & fight that must be made…
What if Clottey won & PBF beat Mosley…Clottey vs PBF haha most exciting fight ever!
Whew, that fight was actually relieving to watch because as it went on I felt it was becoming fairly obvious that Manny has some glaring inadequacies in terms of style that hes going to have to either correct or overcompensate with something else
Prove to me that Pacquiao is 100% clean. The most accurate way to prove that he’s clean is by Random Blood tests, and he won’t do that.
According to the NSAC Shane Mosley is a clean fighter. He was only caught because his name was caught up in the paper trail following the collapse of BALCO.
Then you’re trying to argue semantics. I trust the lawyers of Golden Boy over your and the Pinoy media’s word. The Olympic Style drug testing was written into the contract. They didn’t care about the Urine testing, it was the blood testing they cared about. The USADA was going to do it.
So you’re saying, from the beginning they had scheduled blood tests, and then changed it?
Tell me what is the logic in that? That’s backwards logic. If I suspcted someone used drugs, and I didn’t know. But I went ahead and told them what dates they were going to be tested anyways, if the person was using drugs, they’d have to be a damn fool to fail the drug test.
Pacquiao and camp were the one’s that started proposing cut-off dates for tesing. Freddie Roach was quoted saying that he was cool with testing as long as it wasn’t 5 days before the fight.
Pacquiao agreed to take unlimited amount of random urine tests, so that punches a hole in the logic about Pacquiao being upset over invasion of privacy, or being interrupted in training or anything like that.
The blood they had to take was less than a teaspoon. It takes all of a day, for the amount of blood they take to regenerate, and even then the blood they take is so minuscule that it wouldn’t make a difference. Mayweather, Bolt, Phelps, Kobe, Le’Bron, Ohno. All of these guys can take the olympic style drug testing with no issue at all, but the P4P #1 and most popular fighter in the world can’t? 
Manny’s got a rock skull. He took some solid punches from Clottey, who is massive in bulk compared to the tiny filipino fighter.
And his defense is all the dodging he does. It’s pretty impressive, if you ever notice it.
lol.
quote of the fight:
“he’s getting desperate”
no son. pac isn’t getting desperate. Did you see the fight? LOL
what does who i’m a fan of have to do with anything? i’ve said numerous times that i don’t think pac is on anything, so please stop trying to pull things out of your ass. the fact that you’re accusing me of making excuses when all i’m doing is pointing out the flaws in your statements is pretty telling though. also holyfield and i believe de la hoya have previously used olympic style drug testing prior to various fights before also let’s not forget that every boxer in the olympic is tested in the same way.
the fact that you keep repeating this just makes you look like an idiot. mosley was using EPO when he fought DLH…passed all drug tests before and after the fight, victor conte has come out and shown that most drugs that would benefit a boxer would be gone out of the system by the that time…but by all means, keep repeating that same silly shit.
and as already stated mosley agreed to USADA testing,so there’s actually nothing odd at all outside of your failure to read.
clottey had diarrhea before the fight…there’s an audio clip included with it.