to my knowledge ya…maybe sakuraba too but those are the only guys i can really think.
Shammy, Wanderlei, Jens Pulver, there’s lots more but it’s just not coming to me.
They may not be totally incomprehensible yet, but their all gone.
Imagine Ali in Nintendo’s Punch Out game as a boss character…
? jens pulver is fine and so is wandy. are u sure u know what we’re talking about.
LMAO are you fucking serious? Wand has completely fucking lost it. Jens gets knocked out every other fight. Shammy would get knocked out by a strong breeze. Enson is fucked for life. Igor’s Vov’s right hand is basically unusable for anything besides light lifting.
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All of these men are just as fucked up as Big Nog.
getting koed has nothing to do with if ur right in the brain. jens is just getting older and slower…ya know normal shit human go through. that doesnt mean he’s getting retarded. he has not shown signs of damage.
So your saying having multiple serious concussions time after will leave him with no damage? Going from having a decent chin to a glass jaw is evidence enough for me. Jens’ is already stuttering btw. I really don’t think you know anything about the effects of a concussion; Well he sounds ok isn’t a good enough reasoning to justify your point.
dude…jens always been a studdering idiot. i do know what the effects of a concussion are…ive been around sports my whole life. as well as medical people my whole life. i understand these things alot better than most. just cuz his chin is weaker does not mean he’s going into the retarded zone. a glass jaw is not a definite sign…way too many variables.
So did you know Jens before he started training? No? I don’t remember Jens stuttering all over the place before he left the UFC the first time. Remember we’re comparing sports here, what boxers where knocked into “the retarded zone?” As you put it. Many boxers have died, many have boxers have slowed thought and speech processes some end up disabled but I can’t think of one that was beaten into “the retarded zone.” If you think Wanderlei and Shammy are any better off then Big Nog then there is no need to continue this conversation, go outside and talk to you coach and people who’ve been around combat sports for decades. If you keep getting knocked unconscious you will suffer brain trauma because that is what a concussion is, brain trauma.
you are more or less guessing if their damaged by the fact they’ve been koed. boxing has been proven to have a significant amount of more damage to the people than other sports. your guessing on who’s damaged or not in mma. just cause you’ve seen this sign or that…when its really just iffy signs. but boxing u can prove and has been scientifically proven who has been damaged/why they’ve been damaged and what is has done.
YOUR GUESSING ON MMA.
That’s because the studies haven’t been done but if you look at a far more basic level you’d see whether or not it’s falling or getting punched having a concussion is very dangerous.
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/head/a/aa020103a.htm
I might be assuming per athlete but it’s a cold hard fact that getting a concussion is not good for you health. Go ask those medical people you’ve been around your whole life what can happen with brain trauma patients.
BTW the only thing I disagreed with you about orginally was the amount of athletes who’ve suffered significant trauma in MMA. Boxing is by far the more damaging sport.
actually studies have been done on mma. watch espn and they will try and bring them up and fail horribly.
i know a concussion isnt good for your health, but the fact is…you cant prove any of these athletes are really damaged. everyone is arguable in mma…but u fucking cant argue ali. he’s physically obvious and has had studies done on him for the fact.
You can’t have a proper medical study done on Ali, in fact they can’t even prove his Parkinson’s syndrome was induced by boxing. Bring Ali up in this argument is like fierce Dragon Punching a whole round it’s proof positive your a scrub. Not that I doubt it was caused by boxing but you can’t prove it.
Fact is they’d have to take a group of athletes with no prior mental trauma have them box and some how receive the same amount of damage over a long period of time and then compare it to another group of athletes who didn’t box or receive any mental trauma elsewhere and compare their results. That’s how you prove something and guess what they didn’t do that will Ali. Really you bring nothing to the table.
I’m going to go to sleep, I have work in the morning; It was pleasant talking with you young man.
dude i didnt do the studies u wanna go tell the guys wit degrees their wrong…ur glad to.
I can’t let you get the last word if your going to leave it on that.
Show me a medical study that claims to prove it. Save yourself the effort of googling it because no legitimate source could ever claim that. Just admit your talking out of your ass about something you don’t know anything about and just making up information as you go.
dana white refers to it in one of his espn interviews, when he got interviewed on the dangers of mma. stop acting like a bitch and assuming shit.
Here’s a nice article for you
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/436969/muhammad_alis_battle_against_parkinsons.html?cat=49
So doctors assume, which by your argument makes them wrong.
Dana “fuckin” White? Hahahahahahahaha. Show me a bit of proof.
Dana will do anything to promote his product and will say anything thing as well. Guys like yourself who take his word as gospel flabbergast me. So do you think Fedor sucks as well? So you think Dana can beat Ricardo Arona? Come on man you gotta do better. No wait go fuck off to www.sherdog.com.
dude wtf are u talking about…i know nothing about ricardo arona and dana beef. i’m simply refering to the interview he did with espn.
Show me a medical study proving anything he said on the subject, believe me if there was proof of Ali’s case it’d be all over the net. Fact is there isn’t any proof and another fact is Mr. White talks out of his ass constantly and has about as much credibility as your average internet forum poster. Show me your proof.