lmao
I dunno about you guys, but I love seeing Jenny in that sexy dress. Also, I hope we see a Bloody Roar 5 sometime in the future.
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Ok so i played PF a ton on the cube but eventually dropped it due 1. lack of competition and 2. the whole thing felt flawed. Between dodging(tapping Y as i recall) and sidestep it really felt impossible to pressure in any realistic way. Maybe i was wrong or in your match vids do you just kinda have an unspoken rule not to abuse the everyloving hell out of these mechanics?
Also I never found a complete movelist and this bugged the hell out of me. Itās nice to finally see how i was doing the Iron moles air freeze(2,8) but there were many moves iād found that didnāt seem to be listed anywhere. Also i seem to recall that shina, the lizard, and chronos in phoneix form all had 3rd beast drives. I could do shina because i found it somewhere, could pull of chronos with a 360 motion although iām pretty certain that wasnāt the actual input, and never figured out how to do the lizards although the CPU would do it to me from time to time. All i knew was it started off of his command throw like shinas. Also i seem to remember something extra if you went through the full combo loop with long/shenlong, either it would auto combo into a beast drive, or possibly give different combo enders(not that the strings were useful anyways). All i know is they started surging with electricity at some point.
Short version is where the hell can i find an actually complete movelist including hidden drives and other junk?
BR PF is a remake of BR3, so all the moves are listed on the BR3 movelists at gamefaqs; however like you said there are changes. A few off the top of my head:
- Bakuryu and Kohryuās qcf+B is now different; bakuryu still has the command attack stab, while Kohās has been changed to a long range missile attack.
- Gadoās cancelable throw in human from for BR3 is now a command throw (dp+grab) and can now be used in both human and best forms
- Like you noted Kohryu gained the air freeze attack, and Bakuryu gained a similar freezing attack (same command)
- Some moves like perform differently, for example Gado f,f+B no longer causing bounce
- tech window has been made larger so air cancles require much tighter execution
As for sidestep; no I have not banned Pyro from abusing it (although I def agree with how annoying it is) but have played with him for almost three years now and have gotten so used to his abuse of it that is does not bother me at all anymore and it does not save him from getting his ass kicked. Funnily enough, yesterday when I recorded that match and I was clearly dominating he started to revert to his habbits of trying to use it to get around me. I simply use moves with tracking that cannot be sidestepped (usually gaurdbreaks; this also stuns them), simply wait until he attacks or drive him into a corner.
Now Iām saying its not a flawed mechanic because it is. Simply that Iāve fought with it so long that Iāve adapted to it and it no longer bothers me at all. That said, I donāt use Sidestepping at all, much less abuse it and I can see how it can hinder pressure gameplay (especially those of the cats) so Iām considering either using BR3 vanilla for the FR tourney (if I make it) or simply banning the feature outright as it doesnāt really help the game as far as I can see and I have never seen advanced players use it, especially in such a silly fashion.
if your going to play bloody roar make sure its bloody roar 3, PF got scrubified evade is way to easy to do with no risk, unlike 3 where the timing was much harder required 2 buttons to do and left you open if you mistimed, as you already said sidestepping in PF is utter BS it moves you to far to quick and lastly and probably most damaging to PF the air recover, hitting recover in PF will free you from any air combo instantly with no timing required effectively destroying air cancel and air juggle system in place.
other changes in Primal Fury
they totaly revamped the hyper beast. in 3 once you had max beast you could enter hyper mode making you very powerfully and very fast with high regen and any cancel point, the down side is it lasted 12 seconds and when it ran out you lost the ability to transform for the rest of the match. in PF you can go into hyper mode at any time but it will take a large chunk of your health away, the more beast you have the less health you lose when it runs out you revert to human as normal and can rebuild beast, also they toned down hyper mode and gave each char a special passive ability (jenny for instance gets vampiric regen on attacks, bakuryu gains damage through block) noobs will attempt to spam hyper beast in PF but it gets them killed quickly.
you can now air cancel with QCFuF commands, for example if your by a wall with shina QCB+P, QCFuF+P would cancel the recovery of the qcb+P and go straight into the qcf+P attack.
all the stages, music, models, costumes, story (lol), graphics engine etc. have been changed id say its more of a stand alone spin off game than a remake.
as for a command list just use google, its not hard to find. and for the hidden beast drives
Shina - 360 degree + punch on a crouching opponent then B,P,B,K,K. the timing is tricky start the second part soon as shina launches the opponent
Buzusima - QCB+throw (QCF+throw in BR3) then B,P,K,K,B,B. again the timing is tricky
Cronos - 360 degree + B (only works in hyper beast)
Long - b,f+K,f+B,d+P
Shenlong - after you have gone through the combo circle in any direction d,d,d+B (when you get the red electricity do the d,d,d+B)
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Just got back from FRXIII; good games all around to ShadowAce50, DeadlyRaveNeo and Saotome Kaneda.
Thereās a shitload of links so Iāll just link playlists; obviously the stuff Iām talking about is titled with āFRXIIIā in the nameā¦
Iām actually more or less shocked that there are even tourneys for this game. Donāt get me wrong I like the game but it never really seemed āgoodā
it was casuals
If ShadowAce can get more people in on it, Iād like to see about doing a tourney next year.
Jenny has a lot of tools I donāt think people know about, Iām pretty sure she is higher than mid tier. Iāll try to post what I know soon, but Iām on an iPhone at workā¦
A couple things off the bat,
block down down beast beats nearly everything with jump cancel on hit to air combo
You can instant overhead jump beast on almost everyone
down downfoward towards beast not only punishes wiffs, but combos into up punch into air combo.
Down downfoward towards kick (stance) can be immediately canceled, meaning any special cancellable move can become a throw attempt since the stance move you forward rather far.
Her super can only be ducked or dodged standing leading to rediculous gimmicks during pressure (ie: cancel leg stance into super and watch the counter throw get supered)
once in beast she can down downback back beast during failed pressure to escape than has the opportunity to crossup from there.
Her dash attacks are a low slide and an over head than have stupid priority and can both be comboed
so yeah, i donāt think she is midā¦
Her worst matchup is stun because she has no answer to his beast mode at all, everyone else is a combo vid and you play her like magsā¦
Forgot to mention than this is for br3ā¦
Iāll fire up the wii and see what I can do on pf. Idk if I own pfe, Iāll checkā¦
I saw Bloody Roar: Primal Fury for $6 used at a Gamestop not to far from my house. I am going to get it since there is some interest left in the series by the fans, and it seems like a pretty rare game to find these days.
This is going to sound ignorant, but I will mash and beat the fuck out of anyone in this game.
The moment you try strategy, itās over. My mashing > all sense of logic.
BusuMishima.
Flymike, you will get crushed by anyone who can push the sidestep buttonā¦
I think FlyMike is being funny; he knows from my vids and others that this game doesnāt go for that.
BTW, Finkledoodoo the tier list provided is for BR PF, not BR3 vanilla. For BR3 Vanilla, itād be like Uranus for God Tier (aka banned), Shenlong, Shina, Yugo, Jenny, Alice, Kohryu for Tops, Long, Uriko for higher mid, everyone else with Bak probably being bottom; wonāt really say low because no-one sucks in that game.
Looks like she has all her bs from br3ā¦ I donāt think anyone played her well because having an instant overhead with no landing recovery is pretty rediculousā¦ Works on most of the castā¦ I need time for the write up, because this happened to be the weekend I workā¦ Br3 lost itās tournament viability because of side stepping, which killed many of uranusā god tier applicationsā¦ Basically, you could neutral block sidestep most if not all her mix up optionsā¦ Her beast is garbage compared to her non beast mode which takes a big hit from someone who knows not only her weakness, but pretty much the gameās weakness (op sidestepping)ā¦ And in br3 bak has an infinite that he could do human mode that he could start from the front of you, one stun hit and you lost, pretty close to god modeā¦
im telling you yugo is bottom tier in BR3 hes the only char in the game that outright sucks lol low damage, unsafe launchers, his air combos are fail and he has an all round poor move set, think of yugo as the twelve of BR but without the mobility. but yea jenny is high.
Uranus is like a whole new level of broken lol
Yugo, doesnāt use air combos; heās hits as juggles for the most part. He has Untechable bounces, annoying highs and his damage is good.
Iām calling bullshit on this infinite; Iād have to see it.