Blog: SRK equals DoA now?

Your two cents is two g’s compared to most of the posts made in this thread so far.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not a DOA fan. I’ll play it, I don’t think it’s bad by any means. There are just other fighting games I’d rather play. The reason for that is…it’s…overly simplistic. There’s no advance tactics or anything like that. Granted, I love bodukai 3, and it’s pretty simplistic too. The difference is, there’s alot of options available to you in bodukai 3 dispite it’s simplistic nature. In doa…I just don’t see any.

But I know some DOA buffs that will debate that to no end. Some may say that it’s the simplistic gameplay that makes DOA enjoyable.

So in the end, some people don’t like DOA…

Some people don’t like Tekken. Some people don’t like SC. Some people don’t like VF. Some people don’t like Street Fighter. Nothing’s going to change that.

So instead of calling each names and shit for simply liking a certain series, why don’t we (meaning you) all shut the fuck up and just play what series best suits us?

DOA is what’s in right now. Don’t like it? If so, why the fuck do you even care?

HAHAHA! I laughed so hard a little bit of wee came out!

It’s funny because it’s true.

If DOA convinces even one person to try out other fighting games like SF, KOF, Tekken, or VF, than I think it’s great. New fighting games in general is good for the whole industry.

Yeah, DOA threads sorta get like that.

Kinda speaks volumes about the game itself, eh?

If you think that’s the only form of a blog you are a fucking idiot. Ever hear of Engadget, Joystiq, or any of the other Weblogs, Inc. blogs? That’s just a taste of news driven blogs.

But, how will people know how hardcore we are if we aren’t insulting them for not playing SF?

You win tigerboi’s ownage award. be proud.

^I just love how this guy recently signs on with the site & tries to push his weight around as if he knows more than others. DOA isn’t in as you claim. It never was. It’s only saving grace is that it’s practically the only fighter available for the 360 as of now. People are simply desperate for a fighter on the system. That’s all. Within due time (or when more fighters reach the system) noone will give a damn about the game. Two weeks after DOA4 was released noone even bothered to post in the DOA4 thread that was made here. It was almost as if the game didn’t even exist. Does that sound like a game that’s in to you?

Of course alot people here (such as myself) just don’t like the game/franchise. Thus, will express or hint that we don’t. Got it? **It’s no different from you going into SF related topics making fifty different posts on why you think SF3 sucks as opposed to SF2 & that people who like SF3 are clueless about 2d fighters. ** It all boils down to the same thing. That you just don’t like the game.

Alot of people hate DOA with a passion and don’t feel that it’s as good as other fighters on the market. Simply said, that’s just the way it is. Nothing you or anyone else can say will ever change their minds. So just get over it and stop trying to defend the franchise. This isn’t anything new that hasn’t been seen here on numerous occasions already.

You’re wasting your time.

Who fucking cares? Better than having a site dedicated to games that only a few thousand people tops play these days.

^ thank you kind, sir. You saved me the trouble.

I would also like to mention that I heavily critisized DOA in my last post. I’m not defending the franchise. I don’t CARE enough about it stand up for it.

TIGERBOI KNOWS ALL MUHFUCKUH! LOLZANDSTUFF

Yet you’ve been defending the game in each & every one of your post in this topic. You’re real name must be John Kerry. I don’t have a problem with people liking DOA, if they like it, so be it. You’re entitled to that opinion. It’s just a pity that those same people won’t give the same respect to those in return that say that they don’t like the franchise. What I’m saying is that I (& numerous) don’t like (& never have liked) the game. Get over it.

Polarity:
Who fucking cares? Better than having a site dedicated to games that only a few thousand people tops play these days.

LIKE I GIVE A FLYING FLIPMODE!!

You could get every single person in SRK FGD to say that DOA is the best fighter ever & I wouldn’t give a damn. I’d still hate the game (or whichever aforementioned game) the same. Facts are facts though, and the facts show DOA4 isn’t anywhere near played as much as some make it out to be (or as compared to other fighters). Which is the whole basis of this discussion. You show me an official article that clearly states that DOA’s the top played fighter & I’ll gladly stfu. Numbers speak louder than words.

Who the hell actually knows that?

I haven’t been giving them respect because whether or not you like DOA is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Exactly what I said:

“DOA SUCKS!”

“DOA SUCKS!”

“DOA SUCKS!”

“Who gives a shit? That doesn’t at all effect the topic at hand. Hell, I’m not a fan of DOA either, but I realize there’s no point in constantly bickering about why DOA sucks/rocks and calling the people the play it n00bs. Grow up, god.”

You: “Stop defending the game! Some people just don’t like it!”

“…I wasn’t defedning it. I even critisized it.”

“Stop defending it!”

I’m sorry, but I fail to see how saying “who cares?” is somehow putting shield around DOA.
You didn’t even give an example, you just said the SAME GOD DAMN thing again.

fact: DOA4 is nothing more than an easier to pick up VF4 Evo, which lends itself to button mashers

fact: the game is nowhere as deep as SF

fact: playing DOA4 online will only result in painful experiences such as this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4704434322283864479&q=dead+or+alive

…but then again, so will playing 3s online

fact is, DOA4 is a good game… offline

How can DOA4 be so scrubby if all the scrubs do is complain at how “hard” the AI is? Explain that to me (YES, there are people who preferred the over-scrubbified gameplay of DOA3 and 2U). Fighting games are going down BECAUSE their so un-scrubby. It sound weird, but it’s true. it’s like this: The game HAS to make the noob as good as the pro in day 1, or it “sucks” according to them. Lfe isn’t fair anymore.

Though I haven’t played DOA4, I played the others and think it’s an ok series to play around with people who really aren’t in to fighters and like to just mash a bit and have fun. More than a few people have made it know that DOA4 is the best of the series, yet still lacks the depth of 2D fighters and even other 3D fighters, I get that.

The problem I see is that a lot of people are hoping that the success of DOA4 will somehow translate into the increase in people playing fighting games in general, which I don’t necessarily agree with.

So when some incarnation of the SF series hits Xbox 360, do you really think the DOA fanboys are going to spend serious time with it? The graphics are outdated, the combo system doesn’t make itself apparent until you’ve played it for a long time, and the game overall, isn’t flashy – this is of course the viewpoint of many modern players who consider DOA4 the holy grail of fighters.

SF is the anithesis of this. It takes timing, patience, years of playing, and years of studying frame data and match videos to even be mediocre at. DOA4 takes a week or so to master the high-level tactics.

What is my point? My point is, those who are loving DOA and have never really been into 2D fighters aren’t going to give a crap about any and all 2D fighters that hit the 360 either. Because 2D fighters, especially SF, require a level of dedication that most of today’s gamers aren’t willing to adhere too. They want to hit buttons and have cool flashy moves come out. They want to press buttons with no consequence. They don’t care about footsies, perfect timing, or anything like that. They want unpunishable moves that can be spammed over and over, tons of unlockable outfits, and girls with photorealistic boobs.

So yes I look forward to ST and the other Capcom greats hitting the 360, I don’t think anyone but those who are already in the community, will be making the jump because they enjoyed playing DOA and nor do I think the numbers will ever be as good for a 2D fighter on the 360 as it will be for the 3D ones, especially with the entry-level accessibility of DOA. The Xbox Live community is a perfect example of that and the numbers of actual 2D fighters sold on the first incarnation of Xbox. The numbers are abyssmal.

I guess my point is that all the arguing won’t change the fact that the DOA4 will pretty much not influence any and all future 2D fighters on the Xbox, IMO, because it’s an entirely different realm. But then again, as long as the SRK folks who like the 2D stuff get to play others who like the 2D stuff, that’s all that really matters. The same goes for DOA4.

A game is a game is a game, it’s just that we have either grown up with or experienced the best there is and since that time, graphics have gotten better and so has accessibility, but the core elements have gone downhill. It’s the same with everything in life – games are no different. People don’t want to work for it, they want instant gratification. Street Fighter is like good wine, it shows its true worth with age. I’m afraid many of today’s mainstream gamers don’t understand this. But as long as there is a community that does, even if it’s tiny compared to the others, we’ll get to keep enjoying the “classics.”

ssb

You can’t say that fro every DOA player, though. Beleive me, I’ve tried. Many of DOA’s highest ranking players will debate that DOA has just as much depth as most fighters to no end.

The way I see it, perhaps there is something about DOA that I’m not seeing. Either way, I don’t really care to find out. I played DOAU online for a couple weeks and that was enough for me. I simply didn’t see what the big deal was. To me, it felt like a game of who could block more and throw out combos faster; I didn’t find any of the evasion useful (and on top of that, there were hardly any evasion methods at all.) and the wakeup options were absoulutly horrible.

I talked to alot of people on DOA that seem to know thier fighting shit. I’ve seen some guys demolish other players over and over again and from the way they played it was obvious they were just flat out more skilled.

“Deep simplisity” that’s what I hear alot of DOA players describe it as. I may never know what the fuck they’re talking about, but whatever. I traded in DOAU, played 3s and SCII shortly afterwards, and it was like waking up from a bad dream.

I just flat out think that DOA is the worst mainstream fighting series available right now. I don’t think it’s exactly bad, I can have a little fun with it.

That is comedy fucking gold :rofl:

When the hell did a fighting game’s worth start being measured solely by how impenetrable it is? Years of studying match videos and motherfucking frame data? Take a step back and try to look at this from the perspective of the average person. Does that sound even remotely fun to you? Christ, and you wonder why people just want something they can get into? Oh, and it’s a mighty long walk between “accessible” and slamming the buttons randomly yelling, “WHERE ARE THE BOOBIES, ITAGAKI!!?”. It is possible to play something because you find it fun. Remember that? Somewhere along the line, fighting games stopped being about providing an enjoyable experience and started being about what they were playing at EVO or proving how hardcore you are and how scrubby everyone and everything else was (or so the “community” would have you believe).

You can’t just play a game to have fun anymore. You can’t play something because you just happen to fucking enjoy it. Call of Duty and Rainbow 6 can coexist with Halo and Doom just fine. Gran Turismo can coexist with Burnout and Mario Kart just fine. Flight sims can coexist with Ace Combat. Madden can coexist with NFL Blitz. So, I don’t know why so many fighting game fans act like you gotta draw a line in fucking sand, pick a side and argue about who’s more hardcore. Maybe that’s why your community’s dead

T5:DR is a bunch of smoke and rumors right now. He’s writing a blog about games he’s playing - SRK isn’t the Gamespy “Previews” page. As for Sammy… when was the last time a new Sammy game came out in the states? #R? That’s not really worth blogging about. And SNK… what’s he going to do, write about how SSV is just as lame on the Xbox as it was everywhere else? Or maybe muse about how nice it would be for SNK to meet deadlines and actually get the US releases of its Atomiswave games out?

Right now, DoA is the only new fighting game out worth writing anything about. Just get over it.