As much as I see GG being discussed alongside BB, it’s like everyone forgot that there was the same small gap between the GGXX games, complete with hilariously community-dividing console releases interspersed halfway between those new arcade releases, not unlike what people are complaining about now.
Even disregarding ASW’s well documented history of doing this, if this game, with its host of new features and characters, releases this winter and does the usual Japanese arcade-to-console gap of a couple of quarter, it’ll be out around next summer, making the gap from BB1 to BB2 about a year.
Kinda like Madden, NBA Live, CoD, Guitar Hero, and WWE games. To date, I don’t think any of those games have been offered as DLC.
uh… i don’t live next to any arcade anymore… the furtherest one is like 2 1/2 hours from me… and more than willing to spend chances gettin that time to play… because this is arcades in america… a rarity in this day and age… it’s more support more than anything… unless you way too far away from an arcade… i can understand… and paying to play merely states that you supporting that arcade to want to go buy the next edition (ala with me staying at the wee hours of the night putting quarters in)
also i like your logic… so what happens if you suspend time to go get the new version. “OH THAT’S OKAY!! I LL JUST GO GET THE SUPERIOR ULTIMATE VERSION!!”
damn with that thinking… people wouldn’t be buying SF games or any games that were known to get upgrades and thus games wouldn’t exist cuse… we waiting on them updates right?
finally im true believer that this game only needs some minor tweaks, jump startup is one, throw breaks need to be harder (even though i never had problems throwing people whether they broke it or not), arakune cloud shouldn’t be cursing on block, nu’s damage or recovery off swords, rachel’s pumpkin, clap loop (as much as im always hype for it) needs to go away and give him better options… but well see how it looks. can’t wait to see the game!!
No really, I didn’t do it on purpose. I’m just saying that I’m pretty LUCKY that I decided to wait and see how Blazblue would turn out. After hearing about how unbalanced it was I kind of decided I could do without it and just watch/spectate/hype the game from the sidelines.
I reckon this time I’ll definately get it though. I’m just fortunate I made the right decision not to get it when it first came out. I wish I’d done the same for TvC.
I might be playing devil’s advocate here but how about they use some common sense first, like is it really THAT hard to see how Nu was designed to play was pretty retarded, or that another arch typical character like Arakune is a bad thing? A character like Rachel is something that must be constantly developed and worked with, but the other two big red flags from the get go.
I mean you can go both ways with this. I had been playing GG since, well Guilty Gear, and followed it to the Dreamcast, and its four iterations on the PS2, but after a certain point some people get sick of playing catch up. I stopped at Accent Core, kinda sick of the yearly cycle at that point. You sit there and wonder if the time you’re putting into the game now is going to be largely invalidated by an update a year down the line, and that’s a valid complaint I think.
So you couldn’t hang in there for the game that actually did manage to stick around for a couple years? I mean do we want updates or don’t we? I actually enjoyed relearning the game and characters each time. I miss some of the things from the old versions, but I like some of the new stuff in AC too.
Technically, time spent learning a fighting game will never be worth it. You can make more money doing anything else (SF4 is pretty huge though and may be the exception to this rule.) So in the end, the only thing you can get out of time spent on a game is the fun you had with it and the skills you pick up on the way. Past fun can’t really be invalidated, so you’re probably just talking about the techniques you learned becoming useless in the updated version.
It would be nice if they could add new things without rendering obsolete what you already know, but if they’re changing move properties and game mechanics and adding new moves, it’s a tricky thing to do. Also, there are some things, as you imply with Arakune and Nu that just shouldn’t work like they do, so players of those characters will obviously have to relearn their characters if they get nerfed. But still, hopefully their time spent in the previous version won’t have been completely wasted. They at least have a feel for the system, and how to defend properly, if nothing else. In GG, they never removed jump installs, so it’s not like you ever wasted any effort learning that. They may have changed some frc points, or taken out option select, but these things were easy enough to adapt to. It’s not like it took too long to figure out how to option select in the first place.
It’s a game though. If it’s fun, play it. If not, don’t. There shouldn’t be any shame in just suddenly becoming bored of a game. Sometimes we feel like we need to justify why we stopped playing a game, but you really shouldn’t have to. If you don’t enjoy it, that should be the end of it.
I don’t get why there’s so much butthurt in here about the update–its obvious Blazblue needed one. Granted, it was obvious Nu needed to be changed prior to release the fact is they’re at least attempting to resolve the problem. Trading in the current build and waiting for the next iteration is probably what I’m going to do.
I’d think at least with SRK that most people would used to new iterations by now. I can understand new-school crybabies whining about it but I’d think the majority of SRK wouldn’t think it was a big deal. As much as we’d all love for it to be DLC–companies like making money.
I actually agree a bit with Master Chibi. I started out with GG back on PSX, and when GGX came out it was fun…but then the revisions came. After a while I didn’t know what was what thanks to the rather small scene for Guilty here, and moved on to other fighters.
Following a game is fine and all for hardcore fans, but in order to bring in that other side of casual gamers compromises need to be met. Otherwise the fighting game genre will always stay niche, and the more niche it gets the less people will be inclined to play.