BLANKA'S wish list upgrades for ssf4

who is blanka very good against?

he has MARGINAL wins vs a few people and horrible losses vs loads.

He has a very significant advantage vs Gen. True, the very elite of the Gen players can counter him pretty well - but for the rest of us, a competent Blanka is a pain. Second worst matchup for Gen after Honda, IMHO.

IIRC, Cammy has a pretty rough time against him too. I can’t speak for other characters because those two are the ones I’ve been maining at different times; I’ve never been good enough with any other char to have an opinion. But considering how big his advantages against Gen are, it seems safe to assume that there are more easy matchups for him. Eventhubs claims Zangief, Vega and Dan are three other easy wins for him (7-3).

Vega lulz.

I know, I know. Still, he IS a playable character :stuck_out_tongue:

ok well if you feel that good gen players counter blanka, but players like
you do not, then it’s obvious that blanka isn’t overpowered, you just need to level up a touch before you start crushing blankas.

Cammy doesn’t lose to blanka, it’s one of blankas worst matchups, its 7-3. i’m sure she’s a new main, but trust me she wins. The problem is that you need good reflexes to stop blanka jumping all over you, if you dont have that i suggest picking a charge character. Thats why i dont normally main srk types.

gief is close to 5-5, event hubs is not a resource you should take seriously. lariat beats 1/4 screen fierce balls easily, use of j.mk/hp causes unfavourable trades vs blankas anti airs and neutral j.hp really is something that you have to watch for if you start up balling gief. if gief scores a knockdown and can link blanka is screwed off one j.lk crossup. Gief needs to make one correct guess to do 50% life, blanka needs to run and guess many times to win, it’s not february anymore.

dont use dan as an example of anything he’s not a tournament viable character.

you’re a terrible poster. and blanka only maginally beats vega blanka balls are out and his pokes are very hard to get around.

Blanka balls are only out if Vegas’ got EX, Ultra, or if the Vega can nail dash forward cr.mk to punish them, which is doubtful.

Blankas’ jump arch and normals are custom made to rape Vega and there’s nothing he can do about it. You’re an idiot if you think otherwise, frankly. Once Blanka easily gains that life lead he can just turtle hard and Vega can’t do shit about it.

It’s 7-3 to Blanka for a reason.

You’re a scrub, and since you’re london based i’d know about it if you weren’t. just because you think it doesn’t make it so. vega can hold blanka back with his normals VERY well. and vega will always have ex meter

Serious question here.

The problem is Blanka does suck vs a bunch of chars, but power him up enough and he becomes unfun to play against. he’s already kinda unfun to play against as is. I think the reason Blanka tends to be weak in many games is because it’s pretty easy to turn him into CvS2 Blanka.

I think part of the problem is that the best way to Handle Blanka is to turtle hardcore on him, and rushing him down doesn’t work that well. Do any chars rush Blanka down? You may have to buffnerf Blanka- give him better tools on his bad matchups, but make it easier to rush him down (Vertical roll nerf, or removal?)- and give him other stuff instead. I know when I play Honda, if I see a Honda, I want to just ragequit, even though the matchup’s in my favor. That’s how stupid the matchup gets.

Note: I’m not saying take that move away and give him nothing, I’m saying maybe take that away and give him some awesome new stuff to make him stronger overall, but easier to rush down. That’s what I think he needs as a design.

One idea for buffs, maybe some Duck King stuff could get thrown to Blanka like fake air and his air roll?

I guess what I’m saying is that for Blanka, it may take more then a few tweaks here and there, he may need to become a very different character.

The point isn’t that I need to get better - everyone always has room for improvement. The point is that when a Gen player faces a Blanka player that’s significantly worse than him in timing, execution, combos and reaction, Blanka still usually comes out on top. That’s the very point of discussing matchups, no? That Yeb and Jibbo can beat most Blankas only mean that they are among the best players in the world, and very, very few Blanka players are half as good as they are when it comes to any of the relevant skills for this game. That doesn’t mean that Blanka doesn’t have a significant advantage over Gen.

Even if I accept that Eventhubs is not a reliable resource (which I agree with when it comes to certain characters), why should I take your word over theirs? Especially when your experience do not match my own. For example, Cammy and Gen do not have trouble with Blanka because of reaction time; they have trouble with Blanka because of his mixup, quick jump and pokes. Blanka balls are annoying, but Gen can punish them fiercely; the problem is that when Blanka gets close, he has so many options that are so quick that it’s difficult to keep up, and if you try to escape you get rainbow balled.

Heck, just being a charge character gives Blanka a big advantage over Cammy; he is in a favourable position by simply holding down+back. Gen loses his crossup game to Blanka’s weird hitbox (Oga crossup) and electricity (normal crossup).

Anyway, I was just stating an opinion. Lots of people have probably been in a situation when facing Blanka and they simply don’t have any tools to attack him. That’s annoying. Similarly, I imagine it’s pretty much impossible for Blanka to use his advantages against certain characters.

I believe that’s why some people scream nerf with as much vigor as some scream buff. That’s the only point I wanted to bring across in this thread.

Blanka is unusually popular on the PC version of G1. He seems to be a very lag-friendly character.

You just got yourself in trouble.

well no its irrelevant if blanka is easier to use and that a 5/10 blanka player (skill level) will beat a 7/10 gen player. you have to consider balance at the top level of play only. I’m not saying i’m top level, but i do compltely remove my abilities with blanka from the equation when discussing matchups.

you don’t have to take my word for it, i’m not mizoteru, but i believe i know enough about blanka to know what i’m talking about. i’m 100% certain you have trouble vs blanka soley because you can’t cannon spike jumps on reaction and you can’t crossup cannon spike AA 100%. if you could you’d realise that blanka is cake for cammy. And i’ve only ever played 2 cammy’s that know how to zone with her normals.

Are you threatening me?

With humiliation, yeah. You gon’ get dat humble pie son.

:rofl: well i’m partial to pie of any flavour. i’m down to play whever you want, i’ll be the first to admit when i incorrectly call someone a scrub. I gave away my ps3 so not online though and the next tournament is exceed 2 in january, i’m filming the event for the organisers but will be happy to play you.

That means no games. I’m back in university by then.

If the game is only balanced for hypothetical robots that play absolutely perfectly without making any mistakes, then what use is it for us humans to even discuss balance?

IMHO, balance is relevant on all levels, from beginner to Master Control Program incarnate. Obviously, high-level balance needs to be given higher priority than low-level play in order for the game to be competitive, but that doesn’t mean problems that vanish only when you enter the absolute elite of the world should not be given attention. And on many levels of play, Blanka is a skewed character; very good against some, very poor against others, which is reflected in his tier rankings and the reactions people have to him here and elsewhere. Making him less skewed for most people is a relevant goal in itself, IMHO.

But I think I’ve said enough. I don’t want to get drawn into a series of tangents.

I believe balance should be discussed at tournament level play but not perfect play. Perfect play would mean Fuerte and Seth would be top tier.

I’d love to see that type of Blanka players that make Cammy look free.

I don’t study the strategy threads but from personal experience I always thought Vega was a frustrating match. Blanka vs. Rog is Super hard. I hope Blanka gets some kind of upgrade to deal with him.

That pretty much sums that up.

I do think Blanka vs. Zangief is in Blanka’s favor. Maybe not by much. As far as Balls getting beat by lariat, a decent player won’t be telegraphing them or throwing them from halfway across the screen anyway.