You’re definitely doing something very wrong if you can’t play footsies with Sagat. Sagat has a very bad footsie game if not the worse. I’m guessing you aren’t poking enough with s.mk s.hk
Try to learn how to space those they’ll beat up almost all of Sagats move aside from tiger uppercutt, this time around.
If you really wanna beat the shit out of sagat in SSFIV; play against him in vanilla with gimp bison lol.
What’s the best punish for Ken and ryu’s fierce dp?
best no meter punish is s.cl.fierce>hp PC, but if you are going to corner yourself with the PC use hk SK. with meter same but you can FADC for an extendend combo. If you are on point its a free FA crumple too(a whiffed hp DP). If you have ultra, well then that is the way you should go.
how do you guys mount the offensive? i always just find myself just being a punisher, baiter, shenanigan user, and getting that 1 knock down to start up some wake up games.
but when my opponent is on neutral ground with me, and we are both waiting for someone to make a move, how do i make a move?
dash up and kick the guy? empty scissor kick? jump in (risking to get DP’d)?
Actually, against shotos, you can land c.mp, c.mk xx hp PC, which is slightly better than cs.hp xx hp PC. The combo also has a slight benefit of giving you more charge time.
Walk in and out of their poke range and see if you can get them to press buttons. If they do, counterpoke. If they don’t, you can walk around and chip them with lk or a well spaced mk scissors.
If they’re really not pressing anything, you can try dash throw, and when they start figuring that out, you can go for dash, counterhit cs.hp xx combo.
Try avoiding whiffing, especially with scissors. It’s still punishable even though it recovers kind of quickly.
How punishable are whiffed Devil’s Reverses? Is the 16 frames of recovery after the active frames to the ground is over?
If memory serves correctly, empty DR = 4 frames (same as an attacking jump in, yes?). Doing empty DR>throw/shorts can actually get you counter grabbed or combo’d.
Yes, 16 frames is the recovery once Bison lands on the ground from a whiffed, not an empty, DR. The recovery is the same as a whiffed headstomp, but you don’t notice it as often because typically you’re not close to the opponent when you whiff.
^oops, misread, lol
um, having a little trouble against guile’s flash kick (the light version in particular)…
whats the best way to punish it if its whiffed & blocked?
This seems as good a spot for this as any I finally feel like a real dictator player, I was just on a team battle and I only used Bison. And I won 4 out of my 7 matches. (lost both to grapplers and an adon, I suck at those match ups) And the people I was playing were talking so much shit about me and only me. I hate trash talk and never ever do it myself, it’s rude and doesn’t help either party. Saying I only used “tricks” and never footsied or did any combos (neither of which was true btw). I took a bragging flow chart ken to the cleaners and his blow hard friends cammy and blanka. I’m not bragging they were all good players (to me anyway) and I recognize that my game has many weaknesses and still needs a lot of work. I know this isn’t a question but I just wanted to say thanks for all the advice and answered questions that made this level of frustration possible.
^^^ i feel you man, people always gonna talk trash. i get a lot of shit on the way i play bison. if its in the game im gonna use it and if i find a weakness im gonna exploit it until their dead and i expect people to do the same to me. i wish i could reset my PP/BP back to zero so people have nothing to judge me by and just play the damn game.
Press buttons? You can punish a whiffed FK however you want. Ultra, Super, combo into PC/SK…
Hi I’m brand new to Bison (as my main). I’ve been playing SSFIV for a while now and i’ve tried out alot of characters, but finally settled on Bison as my main because he’s alot of fun and seems to have alot of ways to do damage. Anyway, I used him a little in SSF2THDR and loved him. It seems like his lp psycho crusher is no longer safe from blocked/counter attack when used max distance? Is that true? That was my favorite move in super turbo because it pushed them back on block so it was completely safe! Oh well, i guess i’ll have to use lk knee press more instead, i know that’s safe. But anyway, I don’t have any other questions for now. Thanks.
lp PC can be safe if you space it perfectly, very difficult. But its never safe against shotos. The rest of the cast though you can space it so its safe.
Is Bison’s U1 still good? I find it useful against non-fireball characters, but I’m pretty new.
Bison u1 still good against lot of stuff.
Is Bison’s EX Psycho Crusher safe when hit with the tip? I find it difficult to punish at full screen.
Also For recover I see 12+6. Can anyone elaborate.
Chipping them with the front (stopping) and not passing, yes, puts you at about +4 or +5 frame. You can opt for throw or c.LK or c.MK (counter hit) and go straight into something.
I recently became aware of bisons Mk/slide option select and it seems pretty cool, but I don’t actually understand how you do an option select. What kind of input do you need to do for it?