lol dude i was totally kidding man haha i just get kinda pissed off when a shitty ass player who can’t zone for shit and can’t play any footsies worth anything all of a sudden does some fucking super “advanced” sf4 bullshit they’ve obviously learned online from some shitty ass forum website. LIKE SRK! hahahahaha so then i just mash on the backwards teleport and rape their stupid punk ass with my super buff bison rawr lulz
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I know most everyone in this thread knows this already but, this is the way i like to use bison, PC crossover.
hmmmm i usually do the standing fierce into jab psycho crusher crossup… but which is stronger??? i didn’t even know about crouching MP until i started checking out these bison forums cuz i’m at a fucking shitty teacher conference and luckily i have my laptop! wooooo
j.mp to stand fierce > lp PC works just as well, for more damage i think, but its gimmicky. Although i will abuse it if they continue to block wrong.
I think any condition that you can fulfill that you use a normal that can reset them and you cancel into Psycho Crusher is a candidate for the cross up Psycho Crusher setup.
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Not true! I play Dictator exclusivley (since im on pad) on Xbox live. I started playing rank matches a couple of weeks ago and at about 8000BP/5000PP
I saw another dictator with around 8500 and we played in endless but that was it.
Tyr not to judge people based off how high or low the’re bp are. I’ve played people who are 0-1000 bp that played better than some 10,000 bp players. Me being at 0 for like the first 3 weeks ater the game came out i can account for that. PP (player points) actually tell you more about a players consistency than BP does
Its not worth trying to escape Ryu when he jumps at you on wakeup. Just block and walk back as much as you can. Create enough space so that if he walks foward and try’s to jump at you you can ST RH or if he directly jumps crouching fierce (It will trade most of the time but you will at least be out of the situation to do whatever you want afterwards)
If you have experience in the matchup you will always know when Ryu’s are gonna grab or try a counterhit cr. strong! When you have the lead its exteremely hard for Ryu to get in on a patient Dictator and will be resorted to jumping at you which you will always look for
Not alot of people know about me (outside players I play on xbox live) and og’s since i come on character forums once in a blue and i dont enter as many tournaments as i should. Which will change soon but i have alot of personal things to deal with is why i dont go. I dont care about “Best Bison” because everyone has theyre opinions and actually players in this community base EVERYTHING on tournament which is nothing wrong with that but you have to look outside the box a little. Although I find it hilarious at times I know what it is lol
Im still trying to go to Evo so i would love to see these othder “Top” Dictators and talk it down on matchups. I am consistent in ever matchup with the exception of Guile which is my hardest matchup now (6.5-3.5) Kevin Landon is the hardest peron for me to beat consistently at this time since he mains guile and is very good with him but I will figure it out soon!
Hey Jeron I’v played you in ranked before, you are truely a monster with bison!! Your play style is so clean and you nail links all day long, so props for sure. If you have any vids I would def like to see them if you have a way to post them.
Anyways I have been trying to work on being more confident in mirror matches, and honestly its starting to come together. I mean when I look at my ranked character win % Bison is at the bottom at 10% win rate : (
So with that being said, I really feel like I have become confident and understand this matchup almost totally now. In fact I won all five of these ranked matches yesterday I played. I didn’t get one of the vids because the player quit or lagged out or something…
I blasted this guy with j.hk>c.mp>SK>Super to win the game.
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Same guy but I was kinda over confident and got blasted for doing my super when I knew he was blocking. But besides that I still played well and won.
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Against ArmanSRK. I feel like there is some really good footsies going on here from both of us too, I think more so in the second game than the first but both are good games.
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Oh yeah and Alt 2 color 6 is so beast!!
dang this is some good stuff right here. haha props for not telling me stuff i already know and when it’s stuff i DO already know, props for saying it from another perspective sorta and reminding me shit that i should already know and do. i was mostly joking about the option select. but it felt like online, it like SUDDENLY began to happen. when the fuck did ryu’s deep jumping roundhouse on my wakeup only to randomly do a dragon punch? and randomly do a hurricane kick? lol fucking lame as hell man. ken’s do it too. option select EX dragon punch. haha shitty for me i guess. it’s like OVERNIGHT, people started doing it. i like playing flowchart bison lol.
and ya, big time on the BP skill. when i was 4000 BP, i would trade games with the 10K characters found around the asian xbox scene. and now that i’m at 14000BP, dude, fuck. last night. i played a chun with 6000BP and 4400PP. i KNEW this fucker was gonna be good. i was on a roll too, 5180PP and 14500BP and the first two games were close. i almost won the first one and easily won the second one. and then the dude beats me 20-3 haha. and holy fuck. he got up to 5300PP and i went down to 4400 PP
that guy was HELLA fucking good. best chun i’ve ever played. so i totally know not to judge people by their BP. fuck, you don’t even know if they lost with their main guy and that’s the reason why their PP sucks so bad. but whatever, once everyone is in the A rank, you’ll see their true skills. a B rank character with 4000BP is obviously below the average lol.
so guile’s your worst matchup? i should post some vids of me playing guile’s. at worst, i’m trading with them. i either got the matchup figured out more or the dude’s im playing suck donkey balls. but i seem to be able to beat guiles if their PP isn’t over 4000. i know i’m a lot higher but guile has a huge advantage over bison anyway. also, i haven’t played any guiles as good as me anyway, he’s not that popular a character. i’m sure if i played someone really good, i’d get royally raped but i think bison’s tools got a bit better. my advice, throw a HK when you think they’ll sonic boom. and don’t be afraid to jump. either attack EARLY if you think they’ll air throw, or fuck up their crouching fierce range by mixing up jumping fierce and roundhouse. that’s the two things i did that really changed my game up. and corner them at all cost. when you’re both in the corner, that’s when you’re more likely to fall victim to his bullshit shenanigans.
personally, i found that ken is the new matchup that i have the hardest time with. his EX air hurricane kick can change his air trajectory and it’s hard enough to standing roundhouse shotos anyway. kara throw is DEADLY. oh, and honda. wasn’t honda supposed to lose to bison in vanilla? but now it’s hard as fuck to beat that guy. i lose more often to lower PP dudes with honda than guiles.
i second that, i hate the ehonda matchup, why does he have to hit so fkn hard. Annoying ass character. I feel like i lose this due to impatience most of the time.
I played you Jeron you got a nasty Bison man my Honda could not match up lol.
I didn’t see any of the (relatively) recent NYC matches up here, so:
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Min originally put Andre in the loser’s bracket but I don’t see a video for that.
There are also some matches up from the Guard Crush tournaments in Brooklyn, which I’ll probably post up later.
woohoo I got my B!! I prob only play about 5 or 6 ranked matches when I get online to play so it took a little bit, but I totally outplayed this Blanka to get it. And I remember the matchup post I posted about this matchup, and I feel like I pretty much played to the T of what I explained on how to handle his shinanigans.
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Vs TPH Itachi (GU), this guy has like 10 pros(maybe more) on his FL and plays alot of character very well. I beat his Gat one time in ranked and now he always counter picks me with Guile when I join. Here are a couple of the matches, I feel like I choked so hard on one of the games.
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Im not trying to toss a bag of poo at you or anything but wouldn’t those vid go to the bison video critique thread?
: ( no because I know what I did wrong…
lol 4sho.
not gonna lie, that hurt a little.
EDIT: the reason I post my vids at all is because I think maybe you guys will see something that you might want to pick up that you normally dont do. Or maybe a certain counter I do that I see, other Bison players complaining about… what do I do when this happens…? kinda thing. I know I miss links, but it useually on purpose(I’m always trying new things includeing timing I’m still learning too alot, but I do know what I did wrong when it doesnt work)… or because its online. I feel like I have my head in the right place and have very solid matchup knowledge(for the most part).
Andy Ocr (Bipson) v. Shizza (Chun Li)
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Shizza is a very good Chun Li from the West Coast. And y’all know who Andy is.
WoW, i never thought about using it that way. I loved the ending where you caught him with the super combo, Nice. I also checked and, i see that you like number 2 bison in BP on live.
Ah, sorry guys. If you’re referring to my post where I watched this match, no. I watched it live at a local “tournament” that happened at Shinjuku Sports Land. Sorry for the late reply guys. On a side note, I was on TUC’s team and we ended up with a three person team that had 3 Bisons on it lol.