Bison Labwork: setups, option-selects and unblockables (updated 4/2013)

Classic Fighting Games Ultra Street Fighter IV
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Not sure yet :smiley:

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what do you guys think of this new tech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ooo6oRyBKE&feature=youtu.be&t=19s

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Cool. I’ll be amazed if I see it in a match though. Is it character specific?

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Jump back mp hell attack u2 is already viable.

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How is that possible? Did he input dash in the air on the way down

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Hi guys. Just wanted to share a basic string OS i’ve been testing with Bison, don’t know if its new or not but anyway…

It’s just cr.lp - cr.lp+HP. If the cr.HP OS connects you react to it and cancel with red focus. Surprisingly it does hit the majority of the cast. It hits almost every character that has a backdash under 13.0 distance. You can net 350 damage with cr.MP - far.MP - Scissors HK and even more with Ultra.

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Not new. And you don’t have to react. Just do cr.lp > cr.lp + cr.hp > cr.lp + cr.mp + cr.mk (Red Focus)
If he blocks you do 3 x cr.lp
If he backdash the OS come out and the REd Focus connect

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I see. I think reacting is still better actually, because cr.LP 3 times doesn’t give you a good spacing for frame traps.

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Was bored, did some tests with Psycho crusher crossups using SF4 Show-off. Nothing new, but it’s nice to have some almost concrete data.
Everything was tested against Ryu quickstanding at the first possible frame.


I’ll test the no quickstanding cases also.

TL;DR:
-Most of these crossups are frame specific, so not that very useful. But most of them show that it’s better to wait a few frames before doing the PC.
-LK.SK setups are very distance specific, to the point where cr.LKx4->LK.SK, cr.LKx3->LK.SK and cr.LK->LK.SK produce different results.
-MK.SK setups are strangely the same and aren’t affected by the number of cr.LKs you do.
-Unsurprisingly LP.PC followups after LK.SK or MK.SK are trash against characters that have reversals.
-LP.PC followups after cr.LP, st.LP, st.LK, cr.MK xx LP.PC -> LP.PC are evil.
-If you’re looking for random results, always do LK.SK setups.
-There’s always a sweetspot that not only makes invincible reversals whiff, but sometimes stuffs them completely (at least against Ryu).

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The sweetspot one even deals full damage. I ve been doing that since 2010

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Does anybody has any reliable + useful new tech/setups for Ultra 1 with 10 frame start up and 40f charge time ?

Something you actually can use in a MU or as character specific tech ?

Thx