trying not to hit him on block, but whiff punish some moves, best as an anti air. It’s not very save in general most can punish if ur right there. c.hp makes them airborn so a quickrise will have a banana/can right there
3 birdies in the top 100 rankings atm (for some other extremes: 2 fangs, 16 nashes, 13 bisons)
is birdie lacking in power, consistency, popularity (probably this one), or tech (probably not this one)?
I think it’s a consistency thing. My matches generally go one of two ways, I get kept out or rushed down and lose, or, I get in and all my shit hits, two qucik stuns, ggwp.
Yeah Birdie feels very much like Hugo from SF4. He needs to keep the neutral game where he’s the strongest because he’s buttons are pretty shit close up. People giving him too much respect right now. I think he’s going to get figured out one day.
Anyone figured out dumb AI patterns to get through hard/hell survival mode? Repeated bull horns doesn’t really work the way ken’s repeated DP’s work. Computer blocks bullhorns eventually. The AI is BS in this game where it instantly reacts to your button presses.
So far revenger spam gets you past 30 but after that… i got nothing.
I think the AI is busted. I can barely get through 20 or so matches on hard mode survival. I just went through 62 matches of hell mode survival on my first try. I just got caught slipping cause the AI decided to finally show me a difficult R.mika. Hard mode is way more difficult for whatever reason. They react to everything instantly, even bull revengers. BR spam definitely doesn’t work for me, they jump it almost every time.
Around 35+, they will always jump killing head, bull revenger and normal throw.
I’ve had my bull revenger get punished by bison’s neutral jump, normal xx scissors xx VT, whatever. Real max dmg punish.
The best thing that got me past 30 was neutral jump HP everything and combo off of that into sMP xx bullhead. From there u just apply the pressure by crossing up and hope they don’t block. I’ve seen they also sometimes punish bullhead on block, so don’t nilly willy throw it out there.
Chun li always walks into sMP xx bullhead if u try to do some footsies, so there’s a strategy that seemed to work for me.
I lost around 40+ in hard mode.
Pc files can be edited so u just need one win. Unfortunately i cant test myself cos im out of town this week
Anybody feel like bullhorn would been better as DP input rather than charge?
Care to expand?? I googled and couldn’t find anything.
So little by little, I’ve started to compile a VT EX Bullhead punish list, similarly like my old EX Headbutt punish list for Honda if anyone knows.
Some of my friends were complaining how safe Birdie appears to be and how strong and stupid this reversal makes him, but after some labwork it looks like he isn’t as safe as I thought.
If anyone wants to aid me with this, that would be very much appreciated.
VT EX Headbutt Punish list (Completed with all characters! Huzzah!)
Birdie
- sLP xx EX Bullhead or sLP xx VT LP Bullhead
- sMP xx MP Bullhead
- cLP
- Super
Cammy
- sHP
- cLP
- cMK
- Sweep
- EX Spiral Arrow
- HK Cannon Spike
- Super
- VT Spiral Arrow
- VT MK Cannon Spike
- VT HK Cannon Spike
Chun Li
- cLP
- cLK
- cMK
- Sweep
- b+MP
- LK Lightning Legs (1hit)
- EX Lightning Legs
- Super
- VT sLK
Dhalsim
- cLK
- cMK
- b+MK
FANG
- sMP
- sLK
- sMK
- cMP
- cLK
Karin
- sMK
- cLP
- cMK
- Super
Ken
- sMP xx EX Tatsu
- cMK xx EX Tatsu
- Sweep
- LP DP
- HP DP
- EX DP
- LK Tatsu
- Super
- VT MK Tatsu
- VT EX Tatsu
Laura
- sLP
- sMK
- cMK
- Super
M. Bison
- sMP xx ?
- sMK
- cMP xx ?
- cMK xx ?
Nash
- sMP
- f+LK
- EX Sonic Scythe
Necalli
- sLP
- cLP
- cMP
- Sweep
- LP DP
- EX DP
- Super
R.Mika
- sLP xx EX Peach
- sHP xx ??
- cLP
- cMK
- f+MP
- EX Peach
- EX Rainbow Type (if Mika is cornered)
- Super
Rashid
- sLK
- cLK
- Sweep
Ryu
- sLP xx ??
- Sweep
- LP DP
- Super
Vega
- sLP (claw)
- sLP (no claw)
- sMP (no claw)
- sLK
- sMK
- cLP (claw)
- cLP (no claw)
- cMP (claw)
- cMP (no claw)
Zangief
- sLP
- sMP
- SLK
- cLP
- LP SPD
- EX SPD
- Super
What do you need help testing? What punishes EX bullhead -> Trigger?
What punishes EX Bullhead in Vtrigger
I’m on it
CAMMY
Cr. Forward
Roundhouse & EX Cannon Spike (EX only hits once)
EX Cannon Drill
Critical Art (Short doesn’t punish except in the corner)
RASHID
Crouching short
R.MIKA
St. Jab xx EX Peach Bomber
F. Strong
St. Fierce xx Whatever
Critical Art
Sweet, thanks a lot, this list is going to be finished in now time now.
ZANGIEF
St. Jab
St. Strong
Light Piledriver
Critcal Art
CHUN LI
Cr. Jab
Cr. Short
Cr. Forward xx Heavy Legs (Hits 2 or 3 times depedning on distance, weird)
Cr. Forward xx Critcal Art
Light Legs (only hits once)
Critcal Art
Ok, off to the gym I go
regular bull head in vt trigger seems to push them back further.